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Re: [CQ-Contest] CW abbreviations

To: Mike Fatchett <mike@mallardcove.com>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] CW abbreviations
From: Mirko S57AD <miroslav.sibilja@amis.net>
Reply-to: miroslav.sibilja@amis.net
Date: Sat, 02 Dec 2006 18:56:24 +0100
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Some of logging programs (TRLog and SD by EI5DI, AFAIK) convert cut 
numbers into conventional ones automatically. So,  ANN would be 
converted into 199 or NNN into 999 automatically. 

OTOH, in EUHFC (sponsored by Slovenia Contest Club),  some people using 
CT (which doesn't support EUHFC) and its IARU module were used to type 
in Licence Year (as kind of "zones") > 90 as Nn and missed to convert 
those "N" into 9, which caused us lot of troubles during log checking 
procedures...

73  Mirko, S57AD

Mike Fatchett pravi:

>Then I believe it will be the responsibility of the ARRL to publish the
>official cut list so that all may have an opportunity to convert what is
>sent to what should have been sent.
>
>Punishing a station for copying what is sent is just wrong whether you or
>the ARRL dictates it or not!  How is a casual op supposed to know all the
>cut number abbreviations?  Wouldn't it be easier for the ARRL and log
>checkers to include the possible translations in the log checking routine?
>
>I think the ARRL is completely wrong on this one.
>
>I am making it official that T is now the cut abbreviation for W0MU.  I will
>be registering it with all appropriate registration entities.  I guess I
>will have to send my call at least once every 10 mins for FCC regs but other
>than that if you hear T calling it is me.
>
>T
>
>
>
> 
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: cq-contest-bounces@contesting.com
>[mailto:cq-contest-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of David Pruett
>Sent: Friday, December 01, 2006 11:27 PM
>To: José Nunes CT1BOH
>Cc: cq-contest@contesting.com
>Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] CW abbreviations
>
>All:
>
>On a related note, keep in mind that it is the ARRL logchecking position
>that when receiving a serial number, it is the responsibility of the
>receiving station to translate any received cut numbers into numeric digits
>in the log.  K9TM and I do the logchecking for the ARRL 10M Contest where DX
>stations send RST/serial numbers as their exchange.  If CT3NT sends "VVN"to
>you as his serial number, it is your responsibility to turn it into "339".
>If you put "VVN" in the log, your QSO will be scored as invalid.
>
>Now before anybody begins wringing their hands or starts a thread
>complaining that you should "log what is sent", the topic is not open for
>discussion.  I've confirmed this direction with the ARRL HQ Contest
>Department, and this is the way the 10M Contest Logs have been scored since
>1998.  There is logic to this; cut numbers exist solely to help CW operators
>convey numeric data quicker over the air.  It is not the logchecker's
>responsibility to decode these numbers to "interpret" your log.
>
>Just trying to be helpful here, not start a controversy (which we seem wont
>to do on the reflector these days).  And I'm only speaking for the 10M
>contest, which I'm on the logchecking team for.
>
>Dave/K8CC
>
>
>José Nunes CT1BOH wrote:
>  
>
>>MR Tree says
>>
>>"PS: What about sending VV for "33" - anyone have a problem with that?"
>>
>>Well I don't since I used it from CT3NT.
>>
>>Do you have a problem when you send 5NN and use N for 9? Guess not cuz 
>>you are doing it all along.
>>If you don't why should you have a problem when I use V for a 3? Or 
>>some abbreviations are OK and others are not?
>>
>>As far as CW numbers go I see the following abbreviations:
>>
>>1=A
>>2=U
>>3=V
>>4
>>5=E
>>6
>>7=B
>>8=D
>>9=N
>>0=T
>>
>>CW is a mode where abbreviations are common and are there to save time.
>>Probably you are not aware but:
>>
>> transmitting "33" times 7.000 at 40wpm = 105.73 minutes transmitting 
>>"8" times 7.000 at 40wpm= 54.59 minutes Transmitting "VV" times 7.000 
>>at 40wpm= 76.56 minutes
>>
>>And I'm still 22 minutes behind the zone 8 guys, transmitting just the 
>>zone for every QSO made
>>
>>EE CT3NT
>>
>>Ohh do you also have a problem I send EE instead of TU?!
>>
>>  
>>    
>>
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