Similar arguments could be made of DX Summit. Surfing over to it and
looking cannot be directly detected. Only what someone does with it has
a chance of being detected. The sponsors should make a ruling on it to
end the questions that the whole community has on this matter.
I agree that in my example, K1BX, is the most relevant, however, other
stations having a good run might force me to "take a chance on higher
rate" based on what I am seeing. Its like a NASCAR driver risking
blowing the engine on the last few laps to catch up and win. "Should I
try and run 40M? If I don't, Marv is going to beat me there's only 3
hours left". Its all fine, but assisted, in my book.
I respect all who make their OWN choice and would like to see sponsors
rule on the matter soon.
Ed N1UR
-----Original Message-----
From: Alfred Frugoli [mailto:alfred.frugoli@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 11:30 AM
To: sawyered@earthlink.net
Cc: cq-contest@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Getscores.org Changes/Improvements...
Ed,
The problem here is that there is now way to verify any of this.
Anybody can surf to www.getscores.org and it would never be apparent to
the contest sponsor or any other competitor. You only know some body is
"using" getscores.org when the post to it, as that is when their
callsign appears. IMHO, posting to getscores.org does not put you into
an assisted category, but looking at it might.
As for your comments about being able to see K1BX, W3LL or N5AW, I don't
see how helpful this would be, except maybe in the case of K1BX. The
others are significantly further south (better chance for high band
propagation into EU) or west (behind the east coast wall) to be a good
gauge of what to do. I would think the information they would provide
would lead you on a potentially rate wasteful hunt that would not be
productive.
73 de Al, KE1FO
On Jan 22, 2008 9:32 PM, Edward <sawyered@earthlink.net> wrote:
N2IC's posting is exactly why I disagree with getscores for SOAB
Unassisted. Also, there is much dialog about K1TTT as an example of a
M/M and what you can gain by using getscores. I can specifically tell
you how it would affect me.
As an SO2R SOAB LP op, I will often monitor K1TTT or K1RX or a few other
M/M that are here in New England as they sit on 15 or 10 and call CQ
without a band opening. I may be running on 20M at such a rate that I
do not want to reduce rate by truly S & Ping a second band. So instead
I will monitor 10 or 15 on low volume and listen to one of the M/Ms. I
am specifically listening to see if I can HEAR who is coming back to
them and how loud they are. More than once it has been this indication
that has had me abandon a moderate run or start to take the rate drop on
the run frequency to try grab some mults on 10 or 15.
That whole strategy consumes my second radio for that period of time.
Enter getscores, I can monitor get scores and either see K1TTT start
making 10M Qs at some rate to attract my attention while I slowly grab
some S & P mults on 15 (while running on 20M). All of a sudden I am
SO3R and didn't have to buy another radio (but this isn't
assisted??????).
It is a valid point that with without band breakdown I would not be able
to tell if a station like K1TTT is on 10M making Qs, however I believe I
would be able to tell if K1BX or W3LL or N5AW (examples of top low power
competitiors) found an opening with their summary score only. There is
no way that any of the top low power competitors can double my rate on
20M to pull away from me greatly during the scenario suggested. The
only way would be that I am missing mult rich 10M and 15M S & P or run.
Its not rocket science.
The other situation suggested of a true competitor actually monitoring
getscores but not connecting and contributing at the same time, is just
about the worst example of unsportsmanship I can think of. How the
person in Steve's example could not only claim unassisted but sleep at
night is beyond me.
Getscores, great. In my opinion, its assisted, plain and simple. Call
it what it is and move on. But I respect that others will differ and
therefore I have elected to opt out and just state to all that are using
it. You don't know what I am doing, so, as N4TZ/9 states "you better
have you're A game goin'". If that includes getscores, more power to
you.
Ed N1UR
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