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Re: [CQ-Contest] Skimmer

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Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Skimmer
From: "Vitor Luis Aidar dos Santos, PY2NY" <py2ny@arrl.net>
Reply-to: "Vitor Luis Aidar dos Santos, PY2NY" <py2ny@arrl.net>
Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2008 18:14:51 -0200
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Same concerns here... I think that I will
stop improvind my CW and buy CW Skimmer....
CW Skimmer makes a SO1R operation
works like M/M, and using only one
operator all the time hi hi hi.
All the best and see all of you next
weekend at WPX RTTY...
Viyor PY2NY
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Kevin Stockton" <n5dx2005@yahoo.com>
To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 2:39 PM
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Skimmer


> Great writeup by N4ZR.  Skimmer looks like a very cool program.  VE3NEA 
> has been really helpful, guiding me through some technical issues 
> concerning Morse Runner.
>
> But, I am extremely concerned about the use of this program, and others 
> similar in function, in major contests.  The implications from the thread 
> regarding the use of chat rooms in CQ 160 appear to be... The rules do not 
> prohibit it, so that means it is legal.  If this is the prevailing logic 
> in the contest community then there is nothing to stop contesters from 
> using CW skimmer in a contest to copy the calls for us... the last time I 
> checked, that sounds like RTTY.  Nothing against RTTY but it is different 
> from a CW contest and it should remain that way.  Even if it is the logic 
> by one contester that person has an extreme advantage over all other 
> competitors.
>
> I turned in a good score in the sweepstakes but my accuracy won't be as 
> good as the other top scorers and I'll fall a few places.  Should I stop 
> trying to improve my accuracy and just hook up CW skimmer for the next 
> contest?
>
> I have no problem with the program or its use in chasing DX, or rag 
> chewing. The problem lies in all of the gray areas concerning its use in 
> contesting.  Is it legal or not?  The current paradigm of thought by some 
> says that it is legal, because it isn't in the rules.  But I just can't 
> subscribe to that line of thinking.  There needs to be a rule along the 
> lines of:
>
> "All translation of Morse Code to English must be done by the operator 
> without assistance from outside sources."
>
> Even if it is outlawed, people will still use decoding programs, just like 
> they still run 5 KW.   But at least they won't be able to cop out and say, 
> well it doesn't say I can't do it.
>
> 73,
> Kevin/N5DX
>
>
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