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Re: [CQ-Contest] Xtreme category, catch 22

To: 'Sandy Taylor' <ve4xt@mts.net>, cq-contest@contesting.com, Ron Notarius W3WN <wn3vaw@verizon.net>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Xtreme category, catch 22
From: Julius Fazekas <phriendly1@yahoo.com>
Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 05:31:08 -0700 (PDT)
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See below:

Julius Fazekas
N2WN

Tennessee Contest Group
http://www.k4ro.net/tcg/index.html

Tennessee QSO Party: Sunday, 6 Sept 2009
http://www.tnqp.org/

Elecraft K2/100 #4455
Elecraft K3/100 #366



> But it's another thing to scatter remote transceivers
> (either owned by one
> station or shared) at various points around the globe and
> operate them.
> Sure, it's a great stunt, if you can pull it off.  But
> it puts others at a
> distinct disadvantage, in that the remote operator can
> shift to a
> transceiver on a given band where the band is open, whereas
> the casual
> operator must deal with the propagation and related
> circumstances at their home location. 

I would think you would not be able to submit one single entry with this 
scenario. First, you'd be a different multiplier (most likely with a different 
call), second your rate would most likely suck big time. Not to mention that 
you're now working on the same continent where you higher point QSOs would 
normally come from...

The structure of such a category would be complicated and I doubt you'd see 
many using it.

> 
> Now yes, you can argue that since only the Extreme
> operators compete against
> each other, this shouldn't affect others scores.  But
> I would disagree.  If
> you as an Extreme operator is making contacts (by shifting
> transmitters
> based on propagation, QRM, or whatever) that you wouldn't
> otherwise make,
> you are affecting those in the other operating classes, by
> giving some of
> them contacts that they would not make.  Since it is
> unlikely that you would
> work everyone "equally," you skew the contacts made (and
> thus the final score) of the other operators.

So? That would not be "unique", and you wouldn't be giving them a QSO with a 
new multiplier necessarily. If N2WN had a transceiver in DL and was working EU 
on a closed to the US 10M band, the QSOs in EU would be with N2WN/DL, no 
biggie, not N2WN in the US for a new multiplier and more QSO points...  
> 
> Nor would I discount the affects of the Law(s) of Unforseen
> Consequences.
> As many others have pointed out, many casual operators are
> QRV in the major
> contests not to win, but to find and work rare or rarer
> DXCC entities.
> Imagine the frustration of thinking you've worked someone
> in Pottsylvania,
> fought the corrupt postal system of Fearless Leader to get
> that sought after
> card... and then find out it doesn't count because the op
> was sitting home
> back in Frost Bite Falls, with remote transmitters in
> Pottsylvania, Mooslyvania, and other points on the globe.

This just reinforces my point above... Unless we go to a worldwide licensing 
system, this would never happen.
> 
> So, outside of the small handful of people who can actually
> afford to do this, exactly who does this benefit again?

Can't go with this argument either, look at say WPX, outside of a small handful 
of people why have a SOSB 160 category or 10M category considering conditions?

Cheers,
Julius 
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