Hello Ed...
Theoretically that idea should work fine, i.e., automatically ingesting
adjudicated contest logs into the LoTW system. Technically is would
"only" take a process of requirements gathering, software design,
coding, testing, implementation, and support. Casting all that aside,
there's another issue...
I believe some people would not be as philanthropic as you, when you
wrote: /"However it seems a shame that my logs that are clearly //"//in
the system" for contest results can't be put to good use by those that
do like LOTW and that the league can't get more revenue from it."/
It would be argued that their personal activity should not be a revenue
source for "the league" in any manner. You only have to look at the
controversy that irrupted regarding the "open logs" policy of the CQWW
contests. And there's NO money involved with that! That boils down to
the "loss of control" over their data.
But I am curious why you chose to not upload your logs to LoTW for the
benefit of other operators? You did participate in the system 5 years
ago, according to the "Last Upload" for your call sign. Your QRZ page
says /"I am QSL Manager for 9M6/N1UR, XX9TEP, C6ARS, A52UR, PJ2E..."/
and none of those calls have ever participated. I would think you would
make a lot of people happy by loading those contacts into the system.
I will say the support for getting users "up and going" on the system
has REALLY improved since the last time you participated. There's also a
reflector dedicated to helping walk people through the process when
their initial attempt(s) get derailed.
73 de Bob - KØRC in MN
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On 12/13/2012 10:15 AM, Edward Sawyer wrote:
I agree that LOTW could be considered "off topic" for contesting. However,
if the "backlog status and report" is going to be paraded in front of us
then this topic is more relevant than that topic, in my opinion.
I personally am not an LOTW user. And I don't feel like spending the time
to "re-certify my legitimacy" to be on it. However it seems a shame that my
logs that are clearly "in the system" for contest results can't be put to
good use by those that do like LOTW and that the league can't get more
revenue from it.
Mike, W0MU, has completely missed my point on "faked contacts". The League
has put all of its integrity eggs on the "validation of the source of the
log" from LOTW but none on the "quality of the log data". The Contest
organizers, with CQ leading, have put all of their eggs on "verifying the
QSOs actually occurred" but truly very little on "did you really operate
from where you said you did?".unless someone actually accuses someone of a
non-legit operation.
At the end of the day, the DXCC desk already has a system on making sure
that a contact does not get DXCC credit with a bogus operation. They do it
with every paper QSL submitted. So the same system can be used to make sure
that "tentative LOTW confirmations" don't get DXCC credited when applied for
if the log uploader doesn't have sufficient documentation to prove where
he/she was and with permission.
By having a system that puts security on the "upload" rather than at the
"DXCC credit" point (which is ironically exactly what the paper based system
has been for the past decades), the ARRL LOTW has limited itself immensely
in what should be a very painless expansion by just adding all final contest
logs to LOTW.
Its too bad but I am sure far too "bought in by the administration" and far
too political to be changed. Lets just realize what "could be" if it were
done differently.
Ed N1UR
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