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Re: [CQ-Contest] PSE QSY - Deer in headlights

To: Robert Brandon <rb@austin.rr.com>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] PSE QSY - Deer in headlights
From: Paul Stoetzer <n8hm@arrl.net>
Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2013 13:40:07 -0500
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Robert,

You guys moved me from 10 to 15 to 20, which I was happy to do, but
having to retune my magnetic loop means it takes 30-40 seconds to
change bands.

With so few DC stations on last weekend, I got moved quite a bit. The
motor on my loop's capacitor got a nice workout!

73,

Paul, N8HM

On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 11:05 AM, Robert Brandon <rb@austin.rr.com> wrote:
> I'm not surprised.  We had similar results at V31TP.  Consider that most of
> our QSOs are with casual ops who haven't thought much about the rules of the
> game.  I expect when they hear "PSE QSY", they think we're trying to defend
> our frequency from somebody who's just tried to horn in.
>
> Consider also that some of the guys we want to move may not be copying us
> that well because of crummy radios, line noise, etc.  And while they may be
> able to make a band change, it may be a pain -- change a PL-259 or two,
> adjust an antenna tuner, etc.
>
> I gained a little empathy for these guys as we worked a RI station that we
> asked to move to 160.  I forgot he'd previously told me he had no antenna
> and asked him twice.  I know another one of our ops asked him at least once.
> I can just hear him on the other end, "Does he think I ran out and put a 160
> antenna since our last !#@$ QSO?!"   :-)
>
> Robert K5PI
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: CQ-Contest [mailto:cq-contest-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of
> Georgek5kg@aol.com
> Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 9:27 AM
> To: CQ-Contest@CONTESTING.COM; fcg@kkn.net
> Subject: [CQ-Contest] PSE QSY - Deer in headlights
>
> Ok, let's open up a new thread...
>
> Something that I have noticed for years is that when trying to get another
> CW station to QSY to another band, typically because you need him as a
> mult, I  will get no response to the "pse QSY to ...such-and-such band"
> request.
>
>
> In last week's ARRL DX CW contest from PJ4X, we tried repeatedly to get
> stations to move to other bands, but were more-often-than-not met with the
> "deer  in headlights" blank stare!  In comparing notes over 807's after the
>
> contest, we concluded that if the other station was loud and fast, there was
> a
>  good chance that we would get a successful QSY.  Otherwise, generally, no
> response at all.
>
> Can it be that so many stations are 1.) not really copying (or can't  copy)
> the code, 2.) not interested or able to go to another band, or  3.) quickly
> moving off the frequency before we can even send the QSY  request?  With
> respect to the last point, we tried different canned QSY  requests in our
> "TU"
> message.  We tried "R PSE QSY TO ...", "TU PSE QSY TO  ...", and bluntly
> "PSE QSY TO ..."  My guess is that we got  successful responses to less than
>
> 10% of the requests to QSY.
>
> Your thoughts please.
>
> 73, George, K5KG
>
> George  Wagner, K5KG
> Sarasota, FL
> 941-400-1960  cell
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