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Re: [CQ-Contest] Remote

To: N1MM <tfwagner@snet.net>, "cq-contest@contesting.com" <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Remote
From: "Albert Crespo" <f5vhj@orange.fr>
Reply-to: Albert Crespo <f5vhj@orange.fr>
Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2013 12:51:26 +0000
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 The proposed rules allow for remote.
End of story.
I only proposed that the actual "operator" be in the same DXCC country as the TX and RX.
CQWW is supposed to be a competition.
However, what about having a mult- multi with "operators" for each band sitting in their own home and accessing one station? In other words, having a mulit-multi of dozen people or so, each at their own home, competing as one mult-mulit? Under my proposed rule, K3LR could configure such a monster. Just think of whom he could muster from all over the USA who do not have to make the time and journey to his QTH? It would bar the the same type of multi-mulit setup with "operators" in the USA and the TX and RX in P4. The tradition in Radio Sport competition evolves with time, but not being in the same country as the TX and RX is perhaps not the direction CQWW needs to go. If you think going to Africa, spending the money , time and putting up with conditions there for a contest is the same as being at home, the term "home sweet home" does not apply to you.
73, Albert
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From: "N1MM" <tfwagner@snet.net>
To: cq-contest@contesting.com
Sent: 18/06/2013 19:10:14
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Remote
The opponents don't want some well-heeled guy buying an oceanfront lot, building a big contest station and beating the locals. People don't like carpetbaggers. That's about it.

73,
Tom - N1MM
On 6/18/2013 11:49 AM, Jim Rhodes wrote:
Why is this such a bitter pill for some people to swallow? The station is in one location and that is the location that counts, That is where the RF comes from and goes to. When you add the hardware to operate remote you are also adding lag time into the mix and complexity that must be maintained on BOTH ends. You are putting yourself at an operating disadvantage to maybe
get a scoring advantage. Or in my case just to get on the air for the
contest at all. I spend half of my time away from home working including every other weekend. So the "purists" want to tell me I have to miss those contests totally rather than get on the air and put out some Q's. Thanks a
lot.


On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 12:25 PM, Radio K0HB <kzerohb@gmail.com> wrote:

Nothing has been said which persuades me that it is "bad" for the operator to be remote from the station, whether the station is across town, across the state, across the continent, or across an ocean from the operator.

I am not a rich man. Some day I may be reduced to a home without space for antennas to contest. Remote operation may be my only way to enjoy ham radio. Why do you care where the radio is located, so long as the contest entry reflects that location and the pertinent rules of the regulatory
body(ies) are observed.

73, de Hans, K0HB





In a message dated 6/17/2013 10:35:14 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
f5vhj@orange.fr writes:

Although the rich big boys would not like this rule, there should be a rule
that says:
“The remote operator must be the same DXCC county as the operating
location of the transmitters and receivers.”


Short and sweet. Not ambiguous as to both elements, where Joe is and where
the RF is transmitted and received.

This will prevent Joe Blow from “renting” or using a station in a
favourable location without having to have gone through the grief, travel
time,
and money that would be expended otherwise.
Radio Sport should not be based on how much money or how clever someone
can be to do less then the other person in order to compete.

One person spend the time and energy to go to P4 and operates, a second
person is remote into a station on P4.

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