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Re: [CQ-Contest] Dupes

To: Robert Chudek - K0RC <k0rc@citlink.net>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Dupes
From: Steve Lott <lottsphoto@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2014 10:16:03 -0600
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Oh iow you say "To Mat o" and I say "too mat o"    yes I get it

End result is work the dupes,  right :)


cheers!
steve
KG5VK


http://www.KG5VK.com
My Ham Radio Friends


On Thu, Dec 18, 2014 at 7:30 PM, Robert Chudek - K0RC <k0rc@citlink.net>
wrote:

> /"logging software removes the dupes" //
> /
> Good logging software (and operators) do not remove the dupes. Log
> checking software "deals with" the dupes. It does''t remove the dupes
> either.
>
> 73 de Bob - KØRC in MN
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> On 12/18/2014 2:38 PM, Steve Lott wrote:
>
>> most ops work the dupes because if I callled you, you must not be in my
>> log
>>
>> I tried to work a few stations this 10 meter contest and they said qso b4
>> so I qsy'd and they are NOT in my log
>>
>> logging software removes the dupes
>> if your using paper logs or have some other reason for not working me a
>> second time
>> then you are not in my log !!!
>>
>> you might want to reconsider and just work who calls you again, unless it
>> is a string of them and someone has obviously posted your call wrong on
>> the
>> dx spotting network
>>
>> or we are hearing your call wrong - change the phonetics
>>
>> cheers!
>> steve
>> KG5VK
>>
>>
>> http://www.KG5VK.com
>> My Ham Radio Friends
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Dec 17, 2014 at 8:08 AM, Tom Haavisto <kamham69@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Here is the problem with sending QSO B4.
>>>
>>> Lets assume I have your call wrong in my log - that would be the only
>>> reason to call you a second time.  I then get a QSO B4, but I have NO
>>> idea
>>> when I worked you, and since I busted your call/will loose the QSO and
>>> points.  No penalty on you.
>>>
>>> If you have my call in your log in error. the roles are reversed.
>>> You loose the QSO and take the penalty.  To add insult to injury, I will
>>> probably miss out on a needed mult.  I can send "NIL", and we can go back
>>> and forth a few times, and this costs us both time during the contest.  I
>>> may/may not try depending on how bad I need the mult.
>>>
>>> In the RDX contest, we both get penalized for one side busting the QSO.
>>>
>>> If you start getting a string of dupes, ID excessively to get the point
>>> across that it is a busted spot.
>>>
>>> Yes - there have been a few times where a needed mult sends QSO B4, and
>>> will simply not work me a second time.  When they busted my call on the
>>> second QSO, they (finally) worked me.  Not sure I see the logic in that,
>>> and I did not go out of my way to have them correct my call and have them
>>> again say "QSO B4"....
>>>
>>>
>>> Would it not be quicker to simply work the guy a second time?  Only take
>>> a
>>> few seconds, and everyone goes away happy.
>>>
>>> Just curious...
>>>
>>> Tom - VE3CX
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Dec 17, 2014 at 4:46 AM, Doug Turnbull <turnbull@net1.ie> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Subject Dupes
>>>>
>>>>       I am afraid that later on in a contest after being spotted that
>>>> sometimes I get a slew of people who have worked me previously from the
>>>> Western USA calling again.   I do not want dupes in my log and send QSO
>>>>
>>> B4
>>>
>>>> only if there is a protest will I work them and then I often find they
>>>>
>>> are
>>>
>>>> a
>>>> dupe.   The error rate in my logs is normally pretty low.    I shall
>>>> continue to reject dupes.   My suspicion is that some people want to see
>>>>
>>> if
>>>
>>>> they can work me again.
>>>>
>>>>       Thankfully many are now of the belief that cut numbers cause more
>>>> trouble than good.    I would say the same for operators who want to
>>>> show
>>>> off their CW speed at 35 or 40 wpm - this slows everything down and
>>>> leads
>>>> to
>>>> repeats and errors.
>>>>
>>>>       My two cents.   Happy Christmas and excuse the old goat.
>>>>
>>>>                   73 Doug EI2CN
>>>>
>>>>
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