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Re: [CQ-Contest] Log Checking Technology

To: Yuri <ve3dz@rigexpert.net>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Log Checking Technology
From: Gerry Hull <gerry@yccc.org>
Reply-to: w1ve@yccc.org
Date: Wed, 6 May 2015 10:29:14 -0400
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If winning is the only goal, then being beat by a cheater is a real downer.
  If you finish #2 behind a cheater, and they are not caught, you are still
the winner among your peers.  Yes, it does not go in the record books, but
you and the people that matter will know the truth.

However, catching cheaters is very hard in this type of competition.  The
contest committee is doing 1000% better than the past 100 years.
Technology, and a willingness to go after cheaters, is making that happen.

That said, you are NEVER going to eliminate cheating. There are so many
methodologies that are not possible to catch.  The way to stop cheating is
to make it NOT WORTH IT.
Are proven cheaters banned from the next contest?  Perhaps the only way to
nip this in the bud is to make the penalty for being caught cheating VERY
harsh -- perhaps being banned for 5 years or more might do it..

73, Gerry W1VE

On Wed, May 6, 2015 at 9:08 AM, Yuri <ve3dz@rigexpert.net> wrote:

> Kelly, with all due respect...
>
> Some guys get on just "to have fin".
> Other guys get on "to compete" with they guys like themselves.
> Competing is fun too (trust me).
> Why should we force "the other guys" not to compete if THEY HAVE FUN doing
> it?
> To compete, we need rules. Rules must be obeyed, so everybody would be
> able to have fun (from fair competing - too!)
> It's so simple.
>
> 73  Yuri VE3DZ
>
>
>
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>
>> On Tuesday, May 5, 2015 at 15:23, Kelly Taylor <ve4xt@mymts.net>, wrote:
>> Is the point of Radiosport to work as hard and as honourably as you can
>> and,
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>> most of all, to have fun?
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>> ​[ clippage happened here ]
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>> If there's one technological development that has done the most damage to
>>
>> contesting, it's email reflectors such as this one. They allow operators
>> to
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>> stoke the flames of paranoia across an audience of thousands.
>>
>>
>> Enjoy the contest. Work as hard and as honourably as you can. Compete
>>
>> against yourself: It's a victory when you destroy your score from last
>> year.
>>
>>
>> And then turn off the radio, kiss your wife, hug your kids and get ready
>> to
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>> return to the real world knowing there's far, far more important things in
>>
>> life than whether RU2DX's octopus momentarily failed...
>>
>>
>> 73, kelly
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