Ken: I've experienced this from the other end. Working a station on SSB, he
repeats my call back incorrectly several times, then he gives me a QSL
without repeating my call., and moves on. Sure enough -- I am not in his
log at all, I got a penalty because I logged the QSO based on what the
other station sent. --Mike, WV2ZOW
On Wed, Apr 13, 2016 at 7:46 PM, Ken K6MR <k6mr@outlook.com> wrote:
> It would seem that the additional penalty rule hurts the LP/QRP folks the
> most: they are more likely to have marginal signals. If I have trouble
> copying I’m more likely to declare NIL (or worse, not respond in the first
> place) if I know that busting the Q would result in additional penalties.
> If I’m just going to lose the Q then it’s worth taking the chance.
>
> Ken K6MR
>
> From: Alan Dewey via CQ-Contest<mailto:cq-contest@contesting.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2016 14:36
> To: CQ-Contest@contesting.com<mailto:CQ-Contest@contesting.com>
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Additional Penalty
>
> I don't have a problem with penalty QSOs. I just consider it part of my
> contest strategy. How much time do I spend trying to get the call right
> before just leaving it in the log and going on. If I knew I was going to
> get
> a penalty, I would spend a lot more time trying to get the call right. If
> there was no penalty, I would be more likely to just go on (especially if
> I
> had a good run going) knowing the worst that could happen is that I would
> lose the QSO.
>
> I compete with a guy here in MN who has an extremely accurate log - often a
> golden log. I know that I have to either minimize my errors or find a way
> to exceed his score by a comfortable "buffer". This is a motivator for me
> to do better.
>
> As someone has stated, most penalties are imposed only when the CALL is
> copied wrong. If you miscopy, say, the check in SS, you are going to lose
> the Q but no penalty.
>
> There is only one thing that bothers me about the penalty QSOs. If I
> decided to delete the QSO (after several unsuccessful efforts to get it
> right
> due to QRM and QSB), it keeps me from being penalized but it ends up
> penalizing the guy who thought he had made the QSO with me. I'm not sure
> what can
> be done about that.
>
> 73,
>
> Al, K0AD
>
>
> In a message dated 4/13/2016 8:04:37 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
> kzerohb@gmail.com writes:
>
> In a contest you accumulate a score by contacting other stations,
> correctly
> copy their callsign and generally some other bit(s) of information, and
> accurately transcribe that exchange to your log.
>
> Having correctly copied and logged the required elements, you are
> credited
> point(s) and perhaps a "mult".
>
> If you incorrectly copy the exchange, or finger-fault the log entry, then
> you are not credited the point(s) or mult.
>
> Without overly belaboring the obvious, your success as a contester is
> directly proportional how fast and accurately you can fill your log with
> "good" exchanges. Lower accuracy = lower score.
>
> So what useful purpose is served by the retribution imposed in the
> practice
> of reducing the score further with an "additional penalty"?
>
> Do basketball players suffer an additional score reduction if they miss a
> shot? Are points (already scored) deducted from a baseball team if a
> batter
> fails to get on base? Does a bowler forfeit points earned in the first
> frame if they throw a gutter ball in the eighth frame?
>
> Just wondering.
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