Why would I filter spots? I let N1MM filter them on the bandmap and
grey them out. I want to know where all the DX stations are that I may
or may not be able to hear so that I can pick my CQ frequency that
interferes the least with other competitors.
Spot please.
W0MU
On 2/21/2017 3:21 PM, Gerry Hull wrote:
My point was Spot. Agree on your points.
YT is very rare outside of NA. Yet, one manual spot during ARRL DX.CW.
Gerry W1VE
On Tue, Feb 21, 2017 at 1:28 PM, Barry Merrill <w5gn@mxg.com> wrote:
What is the value of a VY1 spot FROM TEXAS in a contest
in which YOU CAN'T WORK TEXAS?
Don't you think DX stations in ARRL DX would filter any
spots FROM the USA or CANADA, since they are not even
useful for propagation information, let alone a Q.
Barry, W5GN
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Gerry Hull
Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2017 8:54 AM
To: Ron Notarius W3WN <wn3vaw@verizon.net>; CQ-Contest
<cq-contest@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Spotting - not
Agree on all, Ron, 100%
We, as the "OTs", must teach new contesters SKILZ (as they call them).
As I see it, RBN is "easy", so why not use it? This is what is happening
to
contesting.
I was very frustrated, and have been in the past, operating from rare
VY1AAA. Our team lit up the USA Skimmers like wild fire -- Lots of KBs, 73
and 599s sent from US stations we could not work in the contest. Yet, NONE
of them spotted us. Remember, spotting is for the benefit of all.
Certainly, you are not hurting yourself if you spot VY1AAA, since we are
not competing in the same category.
As a believer in RBN, I still tuned the band a lot this weekend, and worked
many 229 Euro mults which I ONLY found by actually tuning the dial.
All methods are important.
73, Gerry W1VE
On Mon, Feb 20, 2017 at 10:11 PM, Ron Notarius W3WN <wn3vaw@verizon.net>
wrote:
My guys & I found quite a few stations that the N1MM bandpass map
wasn't showing and that were not popping up on VE7CC. Especially on
Sunday afternoon.
RBN may be here to stay, and for those operating Assisted/Unlimited or
Multi-Op stations, it is certainly has a benefit.
But with all due respect, no one should rely too heavily on the
technology.
If you do, you risk missing out on stations (and mults) that aren't,
for any of a number of reasons, been detected (or at least, yet)
73, ron w3wn
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From: CQ-Contest [mailto:cq-contest-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf
Of Matt Murphy
Sent: Monday, February 20, 2017 9:41 PM
To: CQ-Contest; Edward Sawyer; w1ve@yccc.org
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Spotting - not
I think RBN was very bogged down on Saturday night. Spots were taking
30+ minutes to appear.
73,
Matt NQ6N
On Mon, Feb 20, 2017 at 8:20 PM Gerry Hull <gerry@yccc.org> wrote:
KE1J was very active from K2LE in Vermont.
In CW contesting, the need to spot has virtually been eliminated by
the RBN.
In fact, if you are not looking at RBN spots, you are at a
disadvantage.
This has a detrimental effect on SSB, as it is not automated.
However, for Assisted operating in the real world, RBN is here to stay.
RBN hurt us at VY1AAA, as we were not manually spotted much, and
prop, especially in Europe, was not so hot, so we were not picked up by
RBN.
The is game in CW contesting now.
73, Gerry W1VE
One of the VY1AAA Gang
On Mon, Feb 20, 2017 at 8:04 PM, Ed Sawyer <sawyered@earthlink.net>
wrote:
Apparently, no one wants to spot any more. They think that
everyone is using skimmer so what's the point? I decided to make
some notes this
time
in ARRL DX.
- When did I start CQing on 80, 40, 20, 15?
- When did I get spotted?
- Did I notice any big burst of calls?
I compared those notes with a look at the DX Summit to see how the
spots compared.
Keep in mind that I was likely the ONLY Vermont station CQing for
many if not most of the time.
I found that in MANY cases - I was running for more than an hour,
in some cases, close to 2 hours! Before being spotted. Worked 100
-
300 stations before being spotted.
I also had a very direct correlation of a noticeable burst of
activity
when
spotted. That means that there was a noticeable group of people
not
using
skimmer that were assisted. Why don't those people spot?
If you run assisted, what is your comment?
73
Ed N1UR
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