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Re: [CQ-Contest] Some Observations

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Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Some Observations
From: Trent Sampson <vk4ts@outlook.com>
Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2017 21:01:24 +0000
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Unintended consequences;

My biggest concern is that we will see a much bigger backlash in the casual 
contester submitting logs or even worse even giving out exchanges. 

Check the ALL TIME records for AFRICA, OCEANIA, SOUTH AMERICA and ASIA - there 
are several classes of NO LOGS - never an entrant in the category - In Oceania 
there is an All-time record with 2 points !!! 

The people who decide to have a bit of fun to put their name in lights and make 
10 QSOs just to get the PDF are now being asked to record the entire 48 hour 
contest ?  Who would bother? To record 47 hours of band noise?

These very people are the lifeblood of a contest - they make up the QSOs that 
we all cherish - the multipliers we all need - Once the movement starts, the 
DXer fraternity will find better things to do and one solution is to not send 
in a log. 

Perhaps the bigger problem with both CQ Contests WW and WPX is the plethora of 
categories.; again something that seemed OK at the time but something that has 
other consequences. 


C. Audio Recordings: Any single operator entrant (see V.A.1) competing for a 
top three finish
at the (a) World, (b) Continent, or (c) USA levels, must record the transmitted 
and received
audio as heard by the operator for the duration of the contest operation. The 
recording must be
in a common format (e.g., mp3) and should include the audio to each ear as a 
separate
channel. The recording may be requested by the Committee within 90 days after 
the log
deadline to help adjudicate the log. The recording files must be provided by 
the entrant within 5
days of the request. If no recording is made available, the Committee may 
reclassify or
disqualify the entry.






-----Original Message-----
From: CQ-Contest [mailto:cq-contest-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Mike 
Ricketts
Sent: Thursday, 20 April 2017 2:21 AM
To: CQ-Contest
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Some Observations

Thanks for this John.

I prefer contesting to any other type of operating, and it probably makes up 
95% of my on-air time. So I doubt I'll be running away from contesting.
I was out of the hobby for a couple of decades and have only returned this last 
fall. Having just joined this reflector, hoping to learn some new techniques 
with the newer technologies and such, only to see nothing but DQ discussions. I 
understand that it is likely due to the timing of me joining, but it really had 
me questioning myself on joining the list.

Of course maybe living on a suburban city lot in 9-land, has me not conerned 
about needing to provide recordings due to a top 3 finish.

73,
Mike ND9G



On Wed, Apr 19, 2017 at 10:32 AM, John Dorr <cqk1ar@gmail.com> wrote:

> FWIW, I offer some observations as one of your humble moderators:
>
> 1) Contesting is supposed to be fun. The recent thread(s) on this 
> channel are anything but that. We have largely become a group of 
> mean-spirited curmudgeons firing one salvo after another at each 
> other. This makes your AR sad.
>
> 2) As a potential aspiring new contester, I would not walk but run 
> very far away from contesting after reading much of the email traffic 
> on this channel over the past few weeks.
>
> 3) Many of the posts on this channel have become personal. Tom and I 
> have deleted many for that reason. They often lack facts and are 
> all-too-often defensive.
>
> I am the first to applaud spirited debate. Frankly, what I've been 
> reading of late is an embarrassment to our sport. We should all be ashamed.
>
> Can I suggest you reboot and think two or three times before making 
> your next post? We're better than our current work product. At least, 
> I'd like to think so.
>
> Thank you.
>
> 73, John, K1AR
>
> PS: The next forecasted sunspot peak is estimated to be in only 2905 days.
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