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Re: [CQ-Contest] CQWW Assisted - Is it just another Urban Myth ?

To: 4O3A Signature <4o3a.ranko@gmail.com>, Trent Sampson <vk4ts@outlook.com>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] CQWW Assisted - Is it just another Urban Myth ?
From: Joe <nss@mwt.net>
Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2017 14:08:47 -0500
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This would be an interesting thing to test say in a future WRTC,
have say half run assisted and the other half not.

Might be interesting,

Joe WB9SBD
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On 7/31/2017 8:29 AM, 4O3A Signature wrote:
Hi Tent,

It is simple reason for it.
SOAB is still category where most of serious contesters are.
Assisted is somehow marginal and not that attractive as unassisted.
Sure that assisted category will generate higher score. MJ, BOH, TV.. will
make higher score in unassisted than some others in assisted simply because
they are better.

73
Ranko




On Jul 31, 2017 16:18, "Trent Sampson" <vk4ts@outlook.com> wrote:

Sorry Stan

But the statistics do not support your biased view - Plain and simple -
Troll through ALL the results and let us know how many times ASSISTED beat
UNASSITED - the answer will highlight your biased response

Cheers

VK4TS

-----Original Message-----
From: Stan Stockton [mailto:wa5rtg@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, 31 July 2017 11:11 PM
To: Trent Sampson
Cc: cq-contest@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] CQWW Assisted - Is it just another Urban Myth ?

Here we go again.

The answer to your question has zero relevance on whether they should be
combined.

Do the results show  being assisted is a detriment like QRP is a detriment
as compared to low power. If so, it's like me saying that QRP scores don't
beat low power scores so why not combine those categories.

If anyone thinks that SO scores would not be as good if those top operators
used the internet to provide them a list of multipliers to work, they have
no clue.  If a survey was taken of those who operate SO in serious fashion
the result would be they don't want them combined.

I have yet to see any logical reason to eliminate the category other than
it is difficult to enforce the rules.

73... Stan, K5GO



Sent from Stan's IPhone



On Jul 31, 2017, at 6:26 AM, Trent Sampson <vk4ts@outlook.com> wrote:

The Assisted category in the CQWW is 25 years old this year;

It was created because of the advantages" given to operators who were
using the spotter networks
In all of the 25 years of assisted categories in the CQWW how many times
has the world SOAB (Assisted) beaten the SOAB (Unassisted) ? - It is a
trick question
Based on factual information is there any reason to not combine the
categories ? before you answer look at the data...

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