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Re: [CQ-Contest] WPX CW Signal Quality Concerns

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Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] WPX CW Signal Quality Concerns
From: N4ZR <n4zr@comcast.net>
Date: Sat, 6 Jun 2020 19:51:54 -0400
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Pardon a dumb question, but isn't the TXDelay normally from TR relay actuation to first RF? I know that's the case with my K3.  In that case, unless you're running QSK, I don't see how that would cause clicks throughout the transmission, just at the beginning of the first character.

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On 6/6/2020 3:29 PM, donovanf@starpower.net wrote:
Hi Tad,


I don't know the specific answer to your question, it depends on the
details of the IC-7610 design.


The October 2018 QST product review discusses the IC-7610 4 msec
keying rise time and the possibility that the 6 msec menue s election
may be a better choice.


In any case, 6 milliseconds should make you a better citizen than 4 msec.


73
Frank
W3LPL



----- Original Message -----

From: "Tad Danley" <tdanley@centurylink.net>
To: donovanf@starpower.net
Cc: cq-contest@contesting.com, "cwops" <cwops@groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, June 6, 2020 7:08:31 PM
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] WPX CW Signal Quality Concerns

Frank, my IC-7610 has 6 and 8 millisecond options as well. Is there any 
disadvantage to using 8 ms?

Best regards,

Tad Danley
K3TD

----- Original Message -----
From: donovanf@starpower.net
To: cq-contest@contesting.com, cwops <cwops@groups.io>
Sent: Sat, 06 Jun 2020 14:37:56 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] WPX CW Signal Quality Concerns

That's an excellent step forward Bud. There's no excuse for intentional
key clicks but that's exactly the place where the Japanese manufacturers
have intentionally put us in 2020.


The current generation of Japanese transceivers are making key click
problems much worse than before. Our only hope is that contest
sponsors improve their rules and enforce them against contesters
taking advantage of the fast CW rise time menu options in their radios.


Manufacturers are completely irresponsible with their 4 millisecond
default CW rise times and egregiously irresponsible with menus
options that allow users to select 1 and 2 millisecond rise times.




Kenwood and Yaesu provide completely unacceptable 1 and 2
millisecond rise time menu options and Icom is almost as bad with
their 2 millisecond menu option.


Why are ARRL and the U.S. distributors not communicating with our
Japanese equipment manufacturers about the problems they're causing
and enabling?



73
Frank
W3LPL

----- Original Message -----

From: "cqwpx director" <cqwpx.director@gmail.com>
To: cq-contest@contesting.com
Sent: Saturday, June 6, 2020 4:58:15 PM
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WPX CW Signal Quality Concerns

I have received two (2) actionable complaints of signal quality issues
during WPX CW, which are both under review.



We will investigate additional signal quality concerns. Please provide the
call to be reviewed, along with the date, time and band of the observed
signal quality issue.



73,



Bud Trench, AA3B

Director, CQ WPX Contest

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email: <mailto:director@cqwpx.com> director@cqwpx.com





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