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[CQ-Contest] Online Scoring and so on

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Subject: [CQ-Contest] Online Scoring and so on
From: ktfrog007--- via CQ-Contest <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Reply-to: "ktfrog007@aol.com" <ktfrog007@aol.com>
Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2024 16:28:53 +0000 (UTC)
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 The CQ-WW contest requires the highest level competitors to make audio 
recordings of their entire operation and provide them to the contest 
adjudicators if requested. Real-time logging to the online scoreboard could be 
required with similar reasoning.


As a aside, I think the top level competitors should also provide multi-channel 
video recordings, including operating positions and all equipment. Like amps.

One benefit of mandatory log submission to an online scoreboard would be for 
real-time log checking, such as for anomalies (i.e., cheating). 

Display of real-time scores and other data would be optional for those who'd 
rather keep their heads down.

Most casual contesters wouldn't be likely to do real-time log submission, so 
they'd submit their logs as they do now (or not at all). For this reason, the 
online scoreboard wouldn't be able to provide a final score at the end of the 
contest. There would still be a waiting period.

73,
Ken, AB1J


    On Wednesday, November 20, 2024 at 09:42:26 PM UTC, Ed Kucharski via 
CQ-Contest <cq-contest@contesting.com> wrote:n
   

 
Ron: I totally agree.  I've been an advocate of the COS for several years.  I'm 
constantly suggesting to the members of our contest club to use it - mostly to 
help BIC time to increase scores for the club and increase overall enjoyment.  
I often refer to contesting as radiosport and I've asked what other sport(s) do 
not use real time scoring.  I said that to my XYL the other day and she 
replied: "boxing" (she's always one step ahead of me).  I bet there are others 
too.  For those who don't want to share operating strategy, in N1MM+, you can 
exclude band breakdown and exclude real time QSO data for real time scoring.  
I'm sure for those who don't have a problem with BIC and are gonna be on for a 
full duration contest anyway may not perceive the BIC benefit but the "fun 
factor" of chasing or staying ahead stations really does keep me engaged. YMMV 
of course.
73,
Ed K3DNE

> On 11/20/2024 1:32 PM EST Ron Koenig <k4akkron@gmail.com 
> mailto:k4akkron@gmail.com> wrote:
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>  
> The online Scoreboard is the present and the future.. I can't wait for
> sponsors to start compelling its use.
> Without the scoreboard I would have never taken the interest I have in
> Contesting. I suspect many others are the same. I cannot fathom the
> reasons people have for lurking in the shadows.
> I'm proud to post my Class *before* the contest, to post my score during. I
> have nothing to hide and it's very enjoyable to participate with hundreds
> of others.
> I forget about most contests long before the results come out.. The
> scoreboard gives a real time challenge, feedback and Fun factor that could
> never be achieved otherwise. Thankfully, in most major contests, the
> winners are on the scoreboard and the others are inconsequential.
>  
> Check the Box... Post to the scoreboard, help Helping Contesting.
>  
> Ron, WV4P
>  
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> > Actually, of the 20 Top 10 HP Worldwide scores in CQ WW SSB - only 50%
> > were on the online scoreboard.
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> > 70% (7) of the assisted and 30% (3) of the unassisted.
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> > I think it's a personal preference thing and is highly leaned towards
> > those running assisted - which makes sense.
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> > I can only speak for myself. I run unassisted and am not a fan.
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> > On 11/19/2024 4:41 AM, ktfrog007--- via CQ-Contest wrote:
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> > > I know one top contester who thinks others can discern his operating
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> > strategy from the Online Scoreboard.
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> > I think he's right.
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> > 73, Jim K9YC
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