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Re: [RFI] Noise changes when room lights turn on / off

To: jim@audiosystemsgroup.com
Subject: Re: [RFI] Noise changes when room lights turn on / off
From: Eddy Swynar <deswynar@xplornet.ca>
Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2012 13:07:44 -0400
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Hi Jim,

In answer to your first query re. my use of the word "incredibly", well, to ME 
at least, it truly was: we'd all spent the better part of the evening 
attempting to solve this neighbour's telephone RFI, and I was absolutely aghast 
when I couldn't hear a thing whilst seated beside the phone, yet she claimed 
that she could, standing beside me!

I really & truly thought that that either (A) she was a certifiable nut case, 
or that, (B) she revelled in all of the attention that she was getting, & was 
telling a fib! It was incredible to me because I never in my wildest dreams 
ever expected that the handset cord would act like a loaded antenna, fully 
extended like that. I imagine its natural resonance was somewhere in the 
10-meter band, too!

And FWIW, the noise was NEVER totally eradicated when the cord was straightened 
like that---even with ferrite devices installed at both ends of it. It was 
"quiet" only when the cord was "bunched up"---straightened out, it acted like a 
perfect antenna.

~73~ de Eddy VDE3CUI - VE3XZ







On 2012-09-15, at 12:35 PM, Jim Brown wrote:

> On 9/15/2012 5:22 AM, Eddy Swynar wrote:
>> Incredibly, the coiled handset cord while I was seated was immune to 
>> RFI---but as soon as it was outstretched, it must have acted like a resonant 
>> loaded vertical on 10-meters!
> 
> Why do you use the word "incredibly" to describe simple antenna action?
> 
>> No amount of handset bypassing / filtering ever eliminated the RFI in the 
>> cord's uncoiled state
> 
> This might have succumbed to a couple of turns around a #43 or #31 ferrite 
> core placed either on the cord to the handset, or to the telephone line cord.
> 
> FWIW, telephones are notoriously bad for RFI.
> 
> These RFI "war stories" are quite useful, including Pete's about those light 
> switches.  There's clearly something about the construction of those switches 
> that is allowing noisy leakage current when the switch is off, and interior 
> house wiring is radiating it.
> 
> 73, Jim K9YC
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