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Re: [RFI] Solar panel RFI

To: David Eckhardt <davearea51a@gmail.com>, Edward Mccann <edwmccann@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [RFI] Solar panel RFI
From: "Hare, Ed, W1RFI" <w1rfi@arrl.org>
Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2022 12:13:18 +0000
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The DM filter is conventional, with L and C.

The ground lead is passed through a toroid with about 10 turns of wire.

The toroids are not marked, so it will not be certain what material they are."

Ed

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Sent: Friday, February 18, 2022 6:41 PM
To: David Eckhardt <davearea51a@gmail.com>
Cc: rfi@contesting.com <rfi@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [RFI] Solar panel RFI

Dave-

Any details or pictures on your three lines of the main CM choke?

One choke for each line?

A simple multiple wrap of the power cord?

Thanks,

AG6CX


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> On Feb 18, 2022, at 3:19 PM, David Eckhardt <davearea51a@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> An effective common mode choke on the mains conductors should pass all
> three conductors through the core.  For a 2.4-inch OD core, three turns are
> usually good.  Too many more will increase the capacitive coupling.  31
> material has an advantage at the lower frequencies where the older 43
> material is a bit better at higher frequencies.  All referring to HF.
>
> I have "solved" many an emissions problem usually around 40 to 70 MHz from
> SMPSs by simply installing a simple common mode choke on the mains lines
> (yes, all three lines:  hot, neutral, and "ground" - the green wire).  Once
> these products reach a contract manufacturer, the common mode choke adds
> nothing to performance and only adds cost, so it is removed.  Many times I
> ran into the reality that contract manufacturers are the EMC engineer's
> worst enemy.  They are supplsed to retest and re-qualify, but they don't.
>
> Dave - WØLEV
>
>> On Fri, Feb 18, 2022 at 10:51 PM Jim Brown <jim@audiosystemsgroup.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Thanks Ed. What ferrite mix and how many turns?
>>
>> 73, Jim K9YC
>>
>>> On 2/18/2022 12:53 PM, Hare, Ed, W1RFI wrote:
>>> We just obtained an AC line filter by Morgan Manufacturing. It also used
>>> a ferrite on the ground wire.
>>
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