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Re: [TenTec] Yahoo and the Orion email reflector

To: "Steve Baron - KB3MM" <SteveBaron@StarLinX.com>,<tentec@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [TenTec] Yahoo and the Orion email reflector
From: "Mike Hyder --N4NT--" <N4NT_Mike.Hyder@charter.net>
Reply-to: tentec@contesting.com
Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2003 06:57:20 -0400
List-post: <mailto:tentec@contesting.com>
That's a bad idea.  Built in conflict of interest!  And Jim says it's a lot
of work -- Ten-Tec would have to assign an employee to the task.

73, Mike N4NT

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Steve Baron - KB3MM" <SteveBaron@StarLinX.com>
To: <eric@k3na.org>; <tentec@contesting.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 12:23 AM
Subject: Re: [TenTec] Yahoo and the Orion email reflector


> This is such an important issue, one would think that Ten Tec would be
> interested in the Orion and get the list moved.
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Eric Scace K3NA" <eric@k3na.org>
> To: "Bill Tippett W4ZV" <btippett@alum.mit.edu>
> Cc: "TenTec mailing list" <tentec@contesting.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 03:50
> Subject: [TenTec] Yahoo and the Orion email reflector
>
>
> > Hi Bill --
> >
> >    Yahoo's privacy policy has improved over the last couple of years.
But
> this is part of Yahoo's privacy statement that I object
> > to:
> >
> > "Yahoo! does not rent, sell, or share personal information about you ...
> except ... under the following circumstances:
> > We provide the information to trusted partners who work on behalf of or
> with Yahoo! under confidentiality agreements. These
> > companies may use your personal information to help Yahoo! communicate
> with you about offers from Yahoo! and our marketing partners.
> > "
> >
> >    And here: "Web pages may contain electronic images (called a
> "single-pixel GIF" or "web beacon") that allow a web site to count
> > users who have visited that page or to access certain cookies. Yahoo!
uses
> web beacons in the following ways:   Yahoo! uses web
> > beacons to conduct research on behalf of certain partners on their web
> sites and also for auditing purposes."  And further: "Yahoo!
> > uses web beacons to access Yahoo! cookies inside and outside our network
> of web sites"
> >
> >    I object to Yahoo providing my personal information to third parties,
> and to Yahoo! accessing cookies not related to its specific
> > web site.
> >
> >    While I would dearly love to participate in the Orion email
reflector,
> I'm not going to lend support to a company which insists
> > on providing information that it collects to outsiders with no opt-out
> ability.  And there is now no way to participate in a
> > Yahoo-controlled email reflector without registering and providing this
> personal information.
> >
> >    The reason that I raise the matter here is that I would like the list
> moderator to reconsider hosting the list elsewhere; e.g.,
> > on the same service that is hosting the TenTec reflector.
> >
> > -- Eric K3NA
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: tentec-bounces@contesting.com
> > [mailto:tentec-bounces@contesting.com]On Behalf Of Bill Tippett
> > Sent: 2003 September 23 Tuesday 10:17
> > To: tentec@contesting.com
> > Subject: [TenTec] Yahoo, etc
> >
> >
> >          Before everyone totally badmouths Yahoo, here is a
> > copy of the note I sent to Eric K3NA.
> >
> >                                          73,  Bill  W4ZV
> >
> > N1JM:
> >  >Once you sign up, there is a way to opt out of all that marketing
stuff.
> >
> >          Eric, this is true.  I opened a separate Yahoo E-mail account
> > (free) because I had the same concerns as you (i.e. getting spam from
> > Yahoo).  But...
> >
> > 1.  I opted out of all the marketing options.
> > 2.  I never get anything from Yahoo directly.
> > 3.  Yahoo has one of the most effective spam filters around...so much
> > so that I now forward all mail to an old spam-compromised address at my
> > current ISP to Yahoo, and 90-95% of it is caught by their "Bulk" spam
> > filter.  What spam remains can be tagged as spam which they use to
improve
> > their filters.
> >
> >          I'm so happy with Yahoo's Bulk filter that I've even considered
> > signing up for POP access (only $9.95 per year) and running ALL my
e-mail
> > through their filter first and then forwarding what's left to my current
> > ISP.  I use a very effective spam filter (Mailwasher Pro) for all my
> > non-Yahoo addresses, but it it not nearly as effective as Yahoo's
because
> > of the huge volume of messages their site sees, which contributes to the
> > quality of their filter.  It's like having a gigantic callsign database
> for
> > CT versus one you personally construct!
> >
> >                                                  73,  Bill  W4ZV
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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