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Re: [TenTec] Simple Answer - Why and how is Orion better?

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Subject: Re: [TenTec] Simple Answer - Why and how is Orion better?
From: "George, W5YR" <w5yr@att.net>
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Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 19:25:28 -0600
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Sure was, Bill, and I appreciate it!

George

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bill Tippett" <btippett@alum.mit.edu>
To: <tentec@contesting.com>
Sent: Monday, November 17, 2003 7:13 PM
Subject: [TenTec] Simple Answer - Why and how is Orion better?


> W5YR wrote:
> As a long-time Icom user who is unfamiliar with Ten Tec equipment, any
> effort on my part to obtain a straightforward technically oriented
response
> to the basic questions of *why* and *how* is the ORION superior to my
> IC-756PRO2 is met with derision for owning a "ricebox" (apologies in
advance
> to those offended) and the reminder that instead of free upgrades, I had
to
> buy a new radio to get around the "problems" of the original PRO. Of
course,
> the PRO2 is now selling fully equipped with power supply, internal tuner,
> etc. for just over half the price of a fully equipped ORION.
>
>          George, I believe this was an academic question because I'm sure
> you know *why* and *how* I feel Orion is superior to a PRO2 or MP.  The
> answer for me is extremely simple and straightforward.
>
> Radio                           IMDDR3 (5 kHz spacing)
> Orion                                       101 dB
> Elecraft K2                                 88 dB
> FT1000MP Mk V                        73 dB
> Kenwood TS2000                        69 dB
> Icom IC756 Pro II                        76 dB
>
> What does this mean to a contester like myself?  It means
> on a VERY crowded band, my noise floor should be 25-28 dB
> lower than a PRO2 or MP.  25-28 dB is a HUGE difference!  It
> means I can hear the QRP guys running 1 watt to the same
> antenna that will require 400 watts for you to hear them on a
> PRO2 or MP.  Is this worth another 3 dB in price...to me it
> most definitely is...in fact it's a real bargain when you consider
> what you would have to do to get 25-28 dB in antenna gain to
> accomplish the same result...of course that wouldn't help the
> PRO2 or MP on receive because then their front-ends would be
> totally saturated.
>
>          The above measurements are from ARRL Test Reports
> and Ten-Tec using ARRL test methodology for Orion.  Soon
> we'll have the actual ARRL results, but I will be extremely
> surprised if they differ much from TT's measurements.  Since
> I recently experienced Orion's very quiet passband in the CQ
> WW SSB myself, I have no reason to doubt their claims.
>
>          Was that a "straightforward technically oriented response"?
>
>                                  73,  Bill  W4ZV
>
>
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