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Re: [TenTec] Antenna Tuners...questions

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Subject: Re: [TenTec] Antenna Tuners...questions
From: "Arthur Trampler" <atrampler@att.net>
Reply-to: Arthur Trampler <atrampler@att.net>, Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment <tentec@contesting.com>
Date: Thu, 1 May 2008 13:56:41 -0500
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George,

I agree with your anecdotal assessment.  In considering an auto-tuner, I 
expected the Palstar, due to its design and construction, to be the clear 
winner on all counts.  That is why the results of the comparison surprised 
me.

I'm glad it's working great for you.

Art


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "george fritkin" <georgefritkin@yahoo.com>
To: "Arthur Trampler" <atrampler@att.net>; "Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment" 
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Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2008 1:45 PM
Subject: Re: [TenTec] Antenna Tuners...questions


Well I have the Palstar, the LDG 1000 and the MFJ.  I
just wonder if anybody looks inside ham gear any more.
 The Palstar looks like a 1.5 kw tuner, but neither
the LDG or MFJ look like they can handle power .
There is a vast difference between the Palstar and
both the MFJ and LDG.

The MFJ and LDG are lumped parameter designs using
relays to switch components, while the Palstar uses a
large inductor and capacitor with  stepping  motors.
So yes the Palstar is slower,  but it has a wonderful
memory algorithim.  The relay clanking in the LDG and
MFJ works, but you better use low power to tune or
else you will be buying relays.

Sure I read the articles but the are many factors that
need to go into a buying decision.

I will just end it with these thoughts

I use the Palstar at the output of my AL-1500.  It
will trim SWR at that power level.  The other two will
not even do that.

Additional antenna position...Who needs that....I use
an external multi-position antenna switch, with one
position used to ground everything...just in case..
which is how the station is left when I am not in the
shack

George, W6GF.






--- Arthur Trampler <atrampler@att.net> wrote:

> OK, I "have" to chime in.
>
> In 2006 QST did a comparison of various auto-tuners,
> including efficiency
> ratings.  The Palstar Auto Tuner was one of them and
> I expected its more
> "traditional" design to yield the best results.
>
> To my surprise, especially in terms of efficiency,
> it did not when compared
> with the the LDG, MFJ or the Ten Tec 253.
>
> George...I am not presuming to trump your knowledge,
> personal or
> professional.  I run a managed care organization;
> I'm not an RF engineer.  I
> am wondering if you've read that review though and
> have any thoughts on its
> findings.
>
> Art
> KØRO
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "george fritkin" <georgefritkin@yahoo.com>
> To: "Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment"
> <tentec@contesting.com>
> Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2008 12:36 PM
> Subject: Re: [TenTec] Antenna Tuners...questions
>
>
> > This is a simple answer....get the Palstar auto
> > tuner...nothing else needs to be said
> >
> > George, W6GF
> >
> > PS If the solid state amp is the Ameritron, I use
> same
> > setup...O2 to AlS-600 to Palstar Auto
> >
> >
> >
> > --- info4mjs@att.net wrote:
> >
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> I've been considering a new antenna tuner for a
> new
> >> QTH.  I've been considering the Ten Tec 238B,
> >> Palstar AT1500DT, and an XMatch (N4XM).  This
> will
> >> be used in conjunction with a solid state 600W
> amp
> >> following my Orion 2.  My present tuner is a home
> >> made unit that is for a balanced feedline system
> and
> >> at my new QTH, I won't have that luxury.
> >>
> >> If you have any comments, suggestions or
> >> recommendations, I'd appreciate hearing from you.
> >>
> >> Thanks.
> >>
> >> Mike, WA1SEO
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