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Re: [TenTec] Omni C help

To: <geraldj@storm.weather.net>, "Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment" <tentec@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [TenTec] Omni C help
From: "Phil Chambley Sr." <k4dpk@comcast.net>
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Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2009 01:06:17 -0500
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I do not believe the issue with the Ten Tec PTO mechanics is one of wear in the planetary drive, and I will explain my reason. The drive is made up of ball bearings, tracking in a bronze race. We've all seen electric motors with ball and bronze bearings run for years without a problem. An electric motor will rotate more in a day than a PTO shaft will be turned in twenty years, and it will do it without noticeable wear.



The real culprit with these PTOs is a combination of using a grease with poor aging properties, along with the use of a PLASTIC THRUST BEARING CUP.



It is the latter that causes the greatest problem.



The thrust bearing cup keeps pressure on the planetary drive. The friction between the balls and the shaft/race assembly must always be greater than the resistance of the return spring and other frictional losses, otherwise the drive will slip. As the grease thickens, the need for better contact in the planetary drive assembly is multiplied.



The problem is, the thrust bearing cup is made of plastic, and it is mounted via two screws in its "ears" which are out of plane with the shaft. This allows the mounting ears to stress-relieve, and reduce the pressure on the end of the shaft, and consequently, on the planetary drive. When this happens, the drive will begin to slip, whether or not the grease has thickened, but thick grease will magnify the effect.



I recall seeing one bearing cup so deformed that it was necessary to re-surface it by scrubbing it on a flat emery surface. I've repaired quite a number of these drives and have never had one fail again.



The drives I've corrected only required cleaning out the grease and removing one of the washers under each ear of the thrust bearing cup. This restores the pressure on the ball/race assembly. Removing the PTO is not usually necessary for this operation.



Phil C. Sr.

k4dpk














----- Original Message ----- From: "Dr. Gerald N. Johnson" <geraldj@storm.weather.net>
To: <tentec@contesting.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 01, 2009 8:06 PM
Subject: Re: [TenTec] Omni C help


On Thu, 2009-01-01 at 17:46 -0600, John Cox wrote:
Hi Jerry
I would say that it is probably not the mechanical part of the PTO. If It is the rebuild kit which is a good thing to buy while it is still available will probably not help since it just replaces the grease and wear parts in the drive. I would think that taping on the tuning knob on any Ten-Tec PTO
of this type would cause a frequency shift since you are moving the screw
drive when you do that. Now if you are really banging on the key when you
send that could be another story =:-)

The drive is spring loaded but when the vernier balls and race wear, the
shaft develops end play and the PTO isn't far from the internal speaker
that makes noise for side tone while sending CW too.

I would look for something heat sensitive in the circuitry common to the
receive and transmit oscillator frequency generation.

Which is every crystal and the PTO.

I would see how my
Omni C reacts to taping but I blew the final transistors while testing after
rebuilding the PTO  I accidentally turned the band switch while key down
which is a no no.  I still had the front panel off and got confused.
73, John
KC0YAI

And I know from working on mine that the PTO parts do wear to make it
loose. Because of the spring loading the PTO sensitivity to vibration
varies from one end of the band to the other. A really worn PTO will
slip, more at the low end than the high end of a band. Because the
spring tension is higher at the low end.

Something else to check is every internal cable, especially those
supplying power to oscillators. Pins often respond to a bit of motion to
clean, but stay better with a quarter drop of DeoxIT from Cramolin
applied to each pin.

73, Jerry, K0CQ

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