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Re: [TenTec] Yaesu FT-1000D RF Compressor versus Ten-Tec 715 RF Clipper.

To: <kg6tt@arrl.net>, "Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment" <tentec@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [TenTec] Yaesu FT-1000D RF Compressor versus Ten-Tec 715 RF Clipper... not the same.
From: "David & Chris Drake" <drakes@psci.net>
Reply-to: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment <tentec@contesting.com>
Date: Fri, 29 May 2009 17:30:27 -0400
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Jerry, you are quite right regarding the design. But I do wonder if everyone knows the difference or if TT is simply selling them as a "better" processor. If everyone has the right information, most of the time they will make reasonably good decisions. Had a boss one time that taught me that anytime you make a mistake, its due to not having all the facts to consider. The assumption is that with all the facts, reasonable people make good decisions.
73's
David
Wd9cmd

----- Original Message ----- From: "Jerry Volpe" <kg6tt@arrl.net>
To: <tentec@contesting.com>
Sent: Friday, May 29, 2009 4:31 PM
Subject: [TenTec] Yaesu FT-1000D RF Compressor versus Ten-Tec 715 RF Clipper... not the same.


Quote:

   "Dear Rick,

   With all due respect, I'm interested in finding out why you are using
   the Ten Tec RF processor with a 1000D when the 1000D has one of the
   best RF speech processors ever to be included with a ham rig, built
   right into one of the rig's IFs where an RF processor belongs."



There is another issue at work here when comparing the Yaesu design to the Ten-Tec 717....

A check of the FT-1000D User Manual confirms that Yaesu included an RF Speech Compressor circuit... whereas the Ten-Tec Model 715 is an RF Clipper.... not a compressor. There are rather significant differences to how compressor and clipper circuits work, with clippers being more complex in design therefore generally more costly.... which is why most transceivers use either audio compression, audio clipping or RF compression for speech processing circuits. Then of course all audio compressors are not alike.... all RF compressors are not alike, etc.

There have been more than a few studies over the years comparing the maximum possible 'clean(ish)' increase in average voice for a RF compressor versus a RF clipper circuit. Ten-Tec provides a copy of one of those studies with each 715 and I believe it can be downloaded from their website as well. I suggest a good place to begin is to allow each person to do their own investigation and afterwards make up their own minds as to what is right for their needs.

73,
Jerry, KG6TT

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