Yes, it is a different category and you only compete against other people
that are doing the same thing.
My son, N4YDU, is a big contester and keeps me informed on things like this.
Carl Moreschi N4PY
121 Little Bell Dr
Hays, NC 28635
www.n4py.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Phil Chambley Sr." <k4dpk@comcast.net>
To: "N4PY2" <n4py2@earthlink.net>; "Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment"
<tentec@contesting.com>
Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 10:00 PM
Subject: Re: [TenTec] wither CW?
> I'm not a contester, Carl.
>
> Is there actually such a category? Is there a difference in reward?
>
> Phil C. Sr.
> k4dpk
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "N4PY2" <n4py2@earthlink.net>
> To: "Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment" <tentec@contesting.com>
> Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 9:54 PM
> Subject: Re: [TenTec] wither CW?
>
>
>> If you use CW skimmer or the packet cluster in a contest, that puts you
>> in a
>> different category called "assisted".
>>
>> Carl Moreschi N4PY
>> 121 Little Bell Dr
>> Hays, NC 28635
>> www.n4py.com
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "John Graves" <jh.graves@verizon.net>
>> To: "Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment" <tentec@contesting.com>
>> Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 9:40 PM
>> Subject: Re: [TenTec] wither CW?
>>
>>
>>> Not to be combative but.....
>>>
>>> why is different than someone using cw skimmer along with an automated
>>> contest program so the only code involved 99% of the time is which
>>> function key needs to pushed. I will admit that a very high percentage
>>> of contesters can copy the code and are utilizing technology to increase
>>> the score. If you allow one then why not the other? I don't believe
>>> that the rules require anyone to actually copy the code by hand.
>>>
>>> John / WA1JG
>>>
>>>
>>> Phil Chambley Sr. wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Possibly I didn't clarify my point to the extent necessary. I have
>>>> nothing
>>>> against the use of keyers, bugs (I use both) or even keyboards for
>>>> sending.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> But nowadays one can find a DX station's frequency on a cluster, have
>>>> the
>>>> computer copy him and then press a button to send a canned
>>>> transmission,
>>>> and
>>>> do all this without being able to copy his own name at 5 wpm. These
>>>> are
>>>> the
>>>> ones to which I referred, and I think there should be a scoring
>>>> difference
>>>> for those, compared to folks who actually do know the code at whatever
>>>> level.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> It bothers me to hear someone say he worked a station on CW, when in
>>>> fact
>>>> he can't copy or send at any speed.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Phil C. Sr.
>>>>
>>>> k4dpk
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "N4PY2" <n4py2@earthlink.net>
>>>> To: "Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment" <tentec@contesting.com>
>>>> Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 6:28 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [TenTec] wither CW?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Nobody that is at all serious about contesting uses a straight key. I
>>>>> know
>>>>> many contesters, many who are highly skilled at CW. They all use
>>>>> keyers
>>>>> with memories to send their CQ's and copy in their heads to get the
>>>>> QSO's.
>>>>> All these people can easily copy CW at 40+ wpm in their heads. The
>>>>> keyers
>>>>> are just a mechanism to send the CW with. It is almost impossible to
>>>>> send
>>>>> CW at 20 wpm or higher with a straight key. They do not use code
>>>>> readers.
>>>>> Code readers are useless during typical QRM during a contest.
>>>>>
>>>>> Carl Moreschi N4PY
>>>>> 121 Little Bell Drive
>>>>> Hays, NC 28635
>>>>> www.n4py.com
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Richards" <jruing@ameritech.net>
>>>>> To: "Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment" <tentec@contesting.com>
>>>>> Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 6:22 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [TenTec] wither CW?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> I don't want to hijack the thread or cause a flame war, but I agree
>>>>>> with the notion there should be more points awarded to contesters
>>>>>> (contestants?) who actually pound out the code with their fist, and
>>>>>> who
>>>>>> do not use electronic keyers to generate transmitted code. I thank
>>>>>> we
>>>>>> should reward the operator for HIS skill, not that of his computer.
>>>>>> I
>>>>>> know this would slow the pace, and reduce the number of contacts,
>>>>>> but
>>>>>> it would be the operator, and not his computer at work. If
>>>>>> contests,
>>>>>> like field day, are to simulate high pressure, need to operate NOW,
>>>>>> scenarios, then he would need to have his own ability to pound the
>>>>>> brass, as a computer may not be available. I don't use a voice keyer
>>>>>> on
>>>>>> SSB contests for the same reason. If I can't talk for 24 hours, and
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> other guy can, he deserves to win.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And, parenthetically, I'm finding this code thing terribly difficult
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> learn!
>>>>>> But I will get there, eventually...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Just my take....
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Happy trails.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ==================== Richards - K8JHR ====================
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 5/24/2010 4:56 PM, Jim Brown K9YC wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Virtually ALL serious contesters use computers to SEND CW,
>>>>>>> but the vast majority I know of use the computer between
>>>>>>> his/her ears to COPY it.
>>>>>>>
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