You're entirely right, John.
As long as it's within the rule boundaries, there is no need for ethics to
be involved.
Guess I'm too old and crotchety to discuss what I think anymore.
BTW, I haven't written down anything but the important stuff I copied in 55
years.
Phil C. Sr.
k4dpk
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Graves" <jh.graves@verizon.net>
To: "Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment" <tentec@contesting.com>
Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 9:40 PM
Subject: Re: [TenTec] wither CW?
Not to be combative but.....
why is different than someone using cw skimmer along with an automated
contest program so the only code involved 99% of the time is which
function key needs to pushed. I will admit that a very high percentage
of contesters can copy the code and are utilizing technology to increase
the score. If you allow one then why not the other? I don't believe
that the rules require anyone to actually copy the code by hand.
John / WA1JG
Phil Chambley Sr. wrote:
Possibly I didn't clarify my point to the extent necessary. I have
nothing
against the use of keyers, bugs (I use both) or even keyboards for
sending.
But nowadays one can find a DX station's frequency on a cluster, have the
computer copy him and then press a button to send a canned transmission,
and
do all this without being able to copy his own name at 5 wpm. These are
the
ones to which I referred, and I think there should be a scoring
difference
for those, compared to folks who actually do know the code at whatever
level.
It bothers me to hear someone say he worked a station on CW, when in
fact
he can't copy or send at any speed.
Phil C. Sr.
k4dpk
----- Original Message -----
From: "N4PY2" <n4py2@earthlink.net>
To: "Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment" <tentec@contesting.com>
Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 6:28 PM
Subject: Re: [TenTec] wither CW?
Nobody that is at all serious about contesting uses a straight key. I
know
many contesters, many who are highly skilled at CW. They all use keyers
with memories to send their CQ's and copy in their heads to get the
QSO's.
All these people can easily copy CW at 40+ wpm in their heads. The
keyers
are just a mechanism to send the CW with. It is almost impossible to
send
CW at 20 wpm or higher with a straight key. They do not use code
readers.
Code readers are useless during typical QRM during a contest.
Carl Moreschi N4PY
121 Little Bell Drive
Hays, NC 28635
www.n4py.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Richards" <jruing@ameritech.net>
To: "Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment" <tentec@contesting.com>
Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 6:22 PM
Subject: Re: [TenTec] wither CW?
I don't want to hijack the thread or cause a flame war, but I agree
with the notion there should be more points awarded to contesters
(contestants?) who actually pound out the code with their fist, and who
do not use electronic keyers to generate transmitted code. I thank we
should reward the operator for HIS skill, not that of his computer. I
know this would slow the pace, and reduce the number of contacts, but
it would be the operator, and not his computer at work. If contests,
like field day, are to simulate high pressure, need to operate NOW,
scenarios, then he would need to have his own ability to pound the
brass, as a computer may not be available. I don't use a voice keyer on
SSB contests for the same reason. If I can't talk for 24 hours, and
the
other guy can, he deserves to win.
And, parenthetically, I'm finding this code thing terribly difficult
to
learn!
But I will get there, eventually...
Just my take....
Happy trails.
==================== Richards - K8JHR ====================
On 5/24/2010 4:56 PM, Jim Brown K9YC wrote:
Virtually ALL serious contesters use computers to SEND CW,
but the vast majority I know of use the computer between
his/her ears to COPY it.
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