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Re: [TenTec] new amp

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Subject: Re: [TenTec] new amp
From: "Rick - DJ0IP / NJ0IP" <Rick@DJ0IP.de>
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Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2012 19:28:03 +0200
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Dave,

When you key a dit
  > The "T" line immediately is active
  > The "T" line instantly applies a signal to the TX-Out jack, AND to the AMP 
jack.
  > RF is normally applied about 15 ms later (might even be adjustable)... 
unless
  > unless the keying loop is active.
  > if the keying loop is active, the transceiver does not actually send RF 
until a signal is received back at its TX-EN jack.
  
So for amps without the loop, they receive a signal to key their T/R relay 
about 15ms before RF comes, and it is assumed that is long enough.  For most 
modern amps, it is, but NOT all.

In addition, the Orion and Omni7 can both add [what I call] "post-dit delay", 
which keeps the Amp's internal T/R relay keyed a tiny bit longer (adjustable in 
a software menu).

73
Rick, DJ0IP

-----Original Message-----
From: tentec-bounces@contesting.com [mailto:tentec-bounces@contesting.com] On 
Behalf Of d.e.warnick@comcast.net
Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 7:16 PM
To: k9yc@arrl.net; Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment
Subject: Re: [TenTec] new amp



Pleas e excuse my ignorance. I have used both methods of keying, but have never 
run a TenTec rig without the amp keying the transmitter. I understand that my 
xcvr will key the amp & that there needs to be a delay before the transmitter 
is keyed. 


What I'm missing is 'What keys my Omni VII or Orion II?' 

On theOrion II  TX menu, I could turn the Keying Loop off, but then I don't 
know where I would get any delay. The EXT TR delay will just hold the amp on so 
there is no true QSK. 

I shouldn't be confused, but I am. Sometimes I think the old gray matter is 
turning a different color. 

Thanks, 

Dave 

WA3F 




----- Original Message -----


From: "Jim Brown" <k9yc@audiosystemsgroup.com>
To: tentec@contesting.com
Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 11:36:56 AM
Subject: Re: [TenTec] new amp 

On 8/17/2012 7:01 AM, Duane Calvin wrote: 
> Does the KPA500 do full QSK when keyed by a TT rig (Orion, for 
> example)?  Does it use the keying loop strategy for keying?  Tnx.

I haven't used it with a Ten Tec rig, but I see no reason why it would not do 
full QSK. It's designed to work with any transceiver, not only Elecraft rigs. 
It does NOT use the closed loop method. All you have to do is put the amp in TX 
mode (by activating the PTT line)  and the T/R switching will follow keying. 

73, Jim K9YC
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