One thing to consider: atthe stated prices, you could buy and Eagle and
try it out. If you find the ergonomics truly distasteful, you could
probably turn around and sell it (after the end of July) for almost what
you paid for it.
I went form a Kenwood TS-930S (that I still have) to an Orion II. I
still like the TS0930S ergonomics better tyan the Orion II's, but
honestly, the two radios are so different that the comparison my be not
be fair because the Orion II has the ability to do a lot more.
I have not had the pleasure of operating a TS-590S, but I can tell you
that TT's ergonomics is all their own. It isn't bad, only different. I
suspect you will be happy with either one.
Kim N5OP
On 7/6/2014 2:27 PM, G Reichow wrote:
Thanks Rick, this is the kind of information I'm looking for and all the
responses so far have been very helpful. I read this reflector every day
and it always has good info.
Gary - KN0V
On Sun, Jul 6, 2014 at 10:33 AM, Rick - DJ0IP / NJ0IP <Rick@dj0ip.de> wrote:
The Eagle has a slightly better receiver, especially on the higher bands.
The ergonomics of the Kenwood are more typical of what most people are
familiar with.
Unfortunately Omnirig does not support the Eagle so you may find that some
contest logging packages are not fully compatible with it. They will
probably still work in Orion2 mode, but with a couple of bugs.
The 3rd order IMD of the Kenwood is slightly better than the Eagle, but the
590 has broadband noise problems. The Eagle has none. This makes the
Eagle
more suitable for using at multi TX sites.
The 590 'had' a problem with ALC power spikes on TX. If you buy a new one,
the problem has been fixed. If you buy a used one, it probably has this
problem. This caused many of the modern linear amplifiers to trigger to
fault. This is very annoying, but Kenwood will fix it for free if you are
the original owner. Not sure of their policy for used rigs, but I have
heard it costs $200 for the mod.
Several people who have used both radios, including members of the Ten-Tec
group(s) preferred the ergonomics of the Kenwood better.
IMO this only makes a difference when you have several rigs and switch back
and forth a lot.
If you only use one rig, you quickly become accustomed to just about
anything.
Neither rig has band data available on the rear panel for switching
external
switches such as antennas or band filters. If you want that, you have to
spend a lot more money on the radio.
For running a linear amp in CW, the Kenwood has adjustable TX-delay and
hang
time delay, each of the proper lengths (if you set the menu parameters
correctly). The Eagle does not. It is about 5mS too slow on TX-delay and
has no hang delay at all. Unless you have a full QSK linear, you will need
to purchase the model 318 amp keyer - or for about $10 you can build it
yourself. OR use an external keyer which incorporates adjustable keying
delays, such as the WinKey - which is probably a good idea anyway if you
are
into contesting.
FINALLY: Ten-Tec owners are nicer people. If you don't believe that, just
ask us! ;-)
For my current needs, the Eagle is the best radio in the world.
Your mileage may vary.
73 - Rick, DJ0IP
(Nr. Frankfurt am Main)
-----Original Message-----
From: TenTec [mailto:tentec-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of G Reichow
Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2014 5:16 PM
To: tentec@contesting.com
Subject: [TenTec] Eagle vs. TS-590S
Hello all,
I am in the market for a new radio. Originally I was looking at the
FTDX-1200 and the TS-590S as both of those are within my budget.
Now, with the mega-sale, the Eagle is within my budget as well. I was
leaning toward the 590S due to its receiver. So I guess it comes down to
the
590 or Eagle. My primary interests are dx'ing and contests.
Constructive input and thoughts are welcome.
Tks - Gary (KN0V)
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