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Re: [TenTec] Orion I no tx/rx

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Subject: Re: [TenTec] Orion I no tx/rx
From: Barry N1EU <barry.n1eu@gmail.com>
Reply-to: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment <tentec@contesting.com>
Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2014 14:45:39 +0000
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There's a good photo of the back of the front panel at
http://www.tentecwiki.org/lib/exe/fetch.php?media=orion_batt1.jpg clearly
showing the two ribbon cables and the yellow battery about 6 inches to the
left of them.


On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 2:39 PM, Barry N1EU <barry.n1eu@gmail.com> wrote:

> Also, if you do disconnect those connectors, be careful to gently nudge
> them up by the connector body and don't simply yank on the ribbon cable or
> you'll risk separating the cable from its connector.  Those ribbon cable
> terminations and strain reliefs are inherently not very strong.
>
> Barry N1EU
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 2:32 PM, Barry N1EU <barry.n1eu@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I tend to agree with Carl.  It doesn't sound like a classic A9 power
>> distrib board capacitor issue with symptoms of rebooting esp during xmit.
>> It also doesn't sound like a classic battery issue with symptoms of lost
>> rig configuration.  However, if it was me, I would probably go ahead and
>> replace the battery while you have the front panel opened (see
>> http://www.tentecwiki.org/doku.php?id=565battery )
>>
>> Before you do all that, you might consider reflashing the firmware
>> (assuming the rig is connected to your computer) and see if that helps.
>>
>> 73, Barry N1EU
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 2:26 PM, Carl Moreschi <n4py3@earthlink.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> yes.
>>>
>>>
>>> Carl Moreschi N4PY
>>> 58 Hogwood Rd
>>> Louisburg, NC 27549
>>> www.n4py.com
>>>
>>> On 7/10/2014 10:19 AM, Barry N1EU wrote:
>>>
>>>> Carl, do you mean the ribbon cable connectors?
>>>>
>>>> Barry N1EU
>>>> <http://www.tentecwiki.org/doku.php?id=565battery>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 2:09 PM, Carl Moreschi<n4py3@earthlink.net>
>>>>  wrote:
>>>>
>>>>  This sounds like the classic dirty connector behind the front panel
>>>>> problem.
>>>>>
>>>>> There's a couple of connectors with about 200 connections on it behind
>>>>> the
>>>>> Orion front panel. There's so many connections that you can get almost
>>>>> any
>>>>> symptom from this. These connections should have been gold but they are
>>>>> not.  So they need to be cleaned.
>>>>>
>>>>> It's actually not very difficult to get to.  You remove the front
>>>>> panel.
>>>>> Then unplug the big connectors and spray them thoroughly with a good
>>>>> electrical contact cleaner.  Then, while they are wet, plug and unplug
>>>>> them
>>>>> about 20 times to clean them.
>>>>>
>>>>> I had this on my Orion when it had intermittent symptoms and this
>>>>> completely fixed it.
>>>>>
>>>>> After doing this do a complete reset as follows:
>>>>>
>>>>> 1) Power off Orion.
>>>>>
>>>>> 2) Power On holding the VFO B LCK button.
>>>>>
>>>>> 3) Continue holding LCK button until the radio says "Battery Failure".
>>>>>
>>>>> 4) Power off Orion.
>>>>>
>>>>> 5) Power on holding "Main RX/TX" button.
>>>>>
>>>>> 6) Continue holding this button until the radio says reset complete.
>>>>>
>>>>> 7) Do not clear any settings when asked to do so.
>>>>>
>>>>> 8) Power the Orion off and back on one more time.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Carl Moreschi N4PY
>>>>> 58 Hogwood Rd
>>>>> Louisburg, NC 27549
>>>>> www.n4py.com
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 7/10/2014 10:00 AM, Mike LaRoche wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>  I signed up for this mailing list with the hope of never having to ask
>>>>>> help
>>>>>> with a problem....alas this is not to be the case....
>>>>>> A couple weeks ago I turned on the Orion and it went through the
>>>>>> normal
>>>>>> start-up and I first thought "wow the band is quiet" however the
>>>>>> scope was
>>>>>> flat, no rx, keyed the mike, no tx. After a few frantic minutes
>>>>>> checking
>>>>>> all connections and making sure I didn't change something on the radio
>>>>>> suddenly it started working FB. About a week later the same thing
>>>>>> happened
>>>>>> but this time it didn't come around on it's own, a few minutes after
>>>>>> performing a master reset it started working again (WHEW!) A few day
>>>>>> ago
>>>>>> the same thing happened only this time I'm not so lucky and so far
>>>>>> hasn't
>>>>>> worked. A search of the archives found some info on power supply
>>>>>> issues
>>>>>> with a similar condition but switching power supplies didn't help. I
>>>>>> had
>>>>>> not operated the radio between the times the problems occurred. I'm
>>>>>> hoping
>>>>>> one of the many gurus here has the answer!
>>>>>> Thanks in advance for any help
>>>>>> 73
>>>>>> Mike ND1W
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