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Re: [TenTec] New Radios in the Future

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Subject: Re: [TenTec] New Radios in the Future
From: Barry N1EU <barry.n1eu@gmail.com>
Reply-to: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment <tentec@contesting.com>
Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2014 19:22:37 +0000
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The Flex 6K is a different ball game - only SDR without latency.  It's a
different ballgame now.  The new Flex series is the first SDR worth
considering IMHO.  I just have to figure a way to graft my Omni 6 front
panel on to it  ;-)

73, Barry N1EU

On Sun, Nov 2, 2014 at 7:02 PM, Wade Staggs <tvman1954@gmail.com> wrote:

> *His is the Flex 1500 .... Maybe they have gotten better. The Flex-6500 is
> quite expensive, next to his Flex-1500 ...... Nothing we have found in the
> Flex Forums so far has helped. Other reasons, maybe he is just likes the
> Omni D. We do have a DDS VFO installed on it!*
>
> *                                                                       73
> from Wade/KJ4WS*
>
> On Sun, Nov 2, 2014 at 12:51 PM, Duane Calvin <ac5aa1@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Interesting - my Flex-6500 has nearly instantaneous QSK T/R turnaround.
> > Really nice.  Faster than my Orion was.
> >
> >         73, Duane
> >
> > Duane Calvin, AC5AA
> > Austin, Texas
> > www.ac5aa.com
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: TenTec [mailto:tentec-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Wade
> > Staggs
> > Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2014 12:34 PM
> > To: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment
> > Subject: Re: [TenTec] New Radios in the Future
> >
> > *A very good Friend of mine has a Flex Radio. He Brags about it
> Constantly.
> > So why is it that every time we hear him On the Air, He is talking on an
> > Omni D which he has had on loan from me for a bit over a year now? He
> even
> > has the 100 Watt Amplifier and All the Bells and Whistles........ We have
> > tried 3 different Computers from Slow to Quad Core with 4 Gig of RAM.
> There
> > is still about a 1.5 second delay between Keying the Microphone and
> > Actually Transmitting anything. The Receive has about the same Lag Time.
> > Yay and Whoopie for the SDR Radios, if you want to be constantly doubling
> > with other stations. I like my radio's to work in Real Time. *
> >
> > *                        Just my opinion and 73 from Wade/KJ4WS*
> >
> > On Sun, Nov 2, 2014 at 12:06 PM, Lee <ny6p01@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Think you have your finger on it. What would facilitate this even more,
> > > would be if those who designed s_d_r, would adhere to a few common
> > > standards which would make hardware controllers of the type you
> indicate
> > > portable and interchangeable.
> > > On Oct 31, 2014 4:26 PM, "Rick - DJ0IP / NJ0IP" <Rick@dj0ip.de> wrote:
> > >
> > > > IMO, the time has come to stop worrying about which "radio".
> > > > It's time to abandon the concept of a radio as being the single stand
> > > alone
> > > > device that gets us on the air.
> > > >
> > > > SDR radios such as FLEX and ANAN  ARE THE FUTURE.
> > > > BUT NOT as stand-alone devices.
> > > > Most of us will have and use an additional "Human Interface Box".
> > > >
> > > > What most of us don't like about the current SDR radios is their
> human
> > > > interface.
> > > > ..We want knobs.
> > > > ..Some of us want big knobs.
> > > > ..Some of us want more knobs
> > > > ..Some of us want fewer knobs
> > > >
> > > > The Eagle is a fantastic radio but we can't seem to agree on the knob
> > > > arrangement for the perfect Eagle.
> > > > WHY MUST WE AGREE ON JUST ONE SOLUTION?
> > > > What if we could have a dozen different solutions to the knob
> > > arrangement,
> > > > but they all control a black box called "Son of Eagle"?
> > > >
> > > > CONSIDER THIS:
> > > >
> > > > In the future there will be multiple companies offering various Human
> > > > Interfaces.
> > > > Our choice of human interface will be just as important as our choice
> > of
> > > > SDR
> > > > radio that goes behind it.
> > > >
> > > > Before I continue, let me explain what I have in mind.
> > > > I'm thinking of things like the Wood Box interface such as their
> > TMate2.
> > > > See:  http://www.woodboxradio.com/tmate2.html
> > > >
> > > > My first impression of the TMate2:  "Nice but too expensive."
> > > > But is it really too expensive?
> > > > It is exactly the knobs that this device has which I like so much in
> my
> > > > radios.
> > > >
> > > > Considering its price, the performance of the FLEX 6300 is
> phenomenal.
> > > > But who wants a radio with no knobs?  I certainly don't.
> > > >
> > > > In the future, that performance level will be available for $1K or
> even
> > > > less.
> > > > Couple that with a $300 human interface and we'll have a lovely radio
> > at
> > > a
> > > > reasonable price.
> > > >
> > > > Each of us can choose which human interface we want, with as many
> knobs
> > > as
> > > > we want, and the radio behind it is a black box engine.  We can swap
> > the
> > > > SDR
> > > > black box engine as often as we want, but keeping our own favorite
> > human
> > > > interface.  Each new radio will have the same look and feel as the
> old
> > > one.
> > > > No new steep learning curve.
> > > >
> > > > Upgrading to newer technology will be cheaper because we don't
> replace
> > > > everything.
> > > > We just purchase a new engine.
> > > >
> > > > I believe this will be the ham radio of the future.
> > > >
> > > > This approach will enable each of us to create a radio environment
> that
> > > > suits our own personal tastes.
> > > >
> > > > Even though I was one of the ones yelling loudest that real radios
> have
> > > > knobs, I'm ready to jump ship as soon as they build solutions like
> > this.
> > > >
> > > > 73 - Rick, DJ0IP
> > > > (Nr. Frankfurt am Main)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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