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Re: [TenTec] Bring back the corsair 2

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Subject: Re: [TenTec] Bring back the corsair 2
From: Darrell Bellerive <ve7iu@runbox.com>
Reply-to: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment <tentec@contesting.com>
Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2016 12:25:08 -0800
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Wasn't there also a jump in noise from the Tritons to the Omni ABCDs?


On 16-11-23 12:05 PM, Barry N1EU wrote:
Warms my heart to see W9AC and N4LQ posting on the Ten-Tec reflector
lately, like the good old days!!!

Only want to add one comment Steve.  I'm almost certain you already know
this, but I think there was a significant jump in noise from the Omni ABCD
to the Corsair series and then another jump up to the Omni V/VI series.
You can mitigate much of the Corsair noise by replacing the AF op-amps etc,
as described here: http://corsair.wikidot.com/corsair-opamp .  I think my
Omni VI is as quiet as my Corsair, but both of them have been heavily
tinkered with.

Barry N1EU

On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 6:59 PM, Steve Ellington <steven4lq@gmail.com>
wrote:

I had a loaded K3s then bought an IC-7300 and the noise level was slightly
lower to the point that the K3s started gathering dust.
Recently I picked up a couple of Corsair II's having forgotten what they
were like. After listening to the Corsair II for a while the noise coming
from the IC-7300 sounds like Darth Vader's breathing. Just a few minutes
ago I tried to have a QSO with a guy and I was having a terrible time
trying to copy his CW. I switched to the Corsair II and felt total relief
flood by frazzled brain. I kicked in the 500 hz xtal filter. The noise
actually goes down instead of up as it does in DSP rigs. I then brought in
about 50% audio filtering and he sounded like a CPO...Remember those?

The Corsair II was the last of long like of analog rigs from TenTec. PLL
and DSP started creeping in and up came the noise.

Here's a couple of videos I made to help get the point across. Again let me
say that the 7300 is one of the quietest (modern) radios I've had and boy
does it sound noisy next to the Corsair II!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oX8EWUcnvBU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8LBbiXXRex8

It's frustrating. I don't want it to be this way. I want a receiver that's
better than the Corsair II. What to do?

steve n4lq

On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 1:32 PM, Steve Berg <wa9jml@frontier.com> wrote:

There is no way that it would be profitable to recreate the Corsair II
these days.  I really love my Corsair II, and its external VFO.  But, I
also realize that its days are numbered because many of the parts in it
are
no longer available.  And, while it was an outstanding DX and contest
radio
when it was built, it is not suitable for contesting any more.  Mine has
done a great job for DXing from my rather poor location.

I like it because after several years I have learned its quirks, and how
to best use it under varying conditions.  Realizing its age, I bought an
Omni VII during the fire sale so that I would have a decent and much
newer
radio when the Corsair II finally breathes its last.  After several
months,
I put the Omni VII on the shelf, and went back to the Corsair II.  I
eventually found a good home for the Omni with a newly minted ham.  I
don't
miss it. It seemed to require a lot of menu usage for simple operations,
and for which the Corsair II just requires a bit of adjustment of a knob
or
two.  I was very impressed with the Eagle when I used one at the factory
several years ago.  Would I buy one at $1700 to have a backup for the
Corsair II?  Most likely yes, especially to help keep Ten Tec afloat.
Most
of the Japanese radios make extensive use of menus, and I don't like
using
those.  I have two Argonaut VI radios, and the receivers in those are
simply incredible.  I would like to buy 2 more of them for use as VHF/UHF
IF radios for transverters.  They are apparently similar to the receiver
in
the Eagle, so that would be yet another reason to buy an Eagle.  Since I
have little use for contesting, that does not enter into my preferences
in
rigs.

I have also worked in economic development as a city administrator and
was
on the county economic development board out where I last worked in this
field.  What Mike describes is what we referred to as elephant hunting.
And, I suspect that his comments about economic development being taken
over by the local Chambers of Commerce is sadly true.  What these people
do
not understand is that by helping out smaller companies, there is a
significant increase in a multiplier effect through the local economy.
And, the local governments also have to provide less in the way of tax
expenditures and other incentives.  Where I live now local governments
give
too many incentives to retail and warehousing, which do not pay enough to
support a family.  They are trying to capitalize on the local university
students, but wind up shooting themselves in the foot rather
frequently.  I
would love to see a federal suit challenging economic incentives on the
basis of the Fourteenth Amendment's Equal Protection Clause.  That would
really start to level the playing field in local economic development.

Your Mileage May Vary...


Steve WA9JML



On 11/23/2016 10:33 AM, Ron Notarius W3WN wrote:

Yeah, like that's going to happen...

Considering what Dishtronix has dealt with, prior to the Ten Tec
acquisition, in regards to overseas manufacturers, I have some serious
doubts that Mike would seriously do this.  Even if there is sufficient
market for the rig today, which I suspect there isn't.

Now if you could design a Corsair III, including a DDS type dual VFO,
and
could afford to build it domestically and sell it at a small profit for
circa US$600, you might have something.  Maybe.  But built in China?  I
doubt it.

73, ron w3wn

-----Original Message-----
From: TenTec [mailto:tentec-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of gary
mankoff
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2016 10:36 AM
To: tentec@contesting.com
Subject: [TenTec] Bring back the corsair 2

We need a new corsair 2 ,just like the old one with the filters
installed
,made in China.
This is the only way TT can compete.

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