Well, use almost all CW on my OMNI VII. I am not sure what the notch filter
is. Never used it.
I have a couple of Yaesu rigs and have no idea how to use notch.
Doesn't sound like a critical feature to me.
73s,
WO8L
Sent from my iPhone
> On Jul 20, 2017, at 8:22 PM, Carl Moreschi <n4py3@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> I find the hardware noise blanker on my Orion works very well. It's on a par
> with the Flex 6500 noise blanker system.
>
> Carl Moreschi N4PY
> 58 Hogwood Rd
> Louisburg, NC 27549
> www.n4py.com
>
>> On 7/20/2017 8:18 PM, David W LeJeune, Sr wrote:
>> Thanks, Rick. I'd heard that Rob had a hand in it's improvement. Had a
>> friend who had one of the original Orion's and the noise blanker was almost
>> worthless. On my Orion II, the auto notch still causes distortion of the
>> audio signal when in use. Not sure if this is common. Still use the Orion
>> II on 80meter SSB and a lot on CW on all bands. But the Flex 6500 is a lot
>> better than my old Flex 5000 on CW.
>>
>> Dave WN5V
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: TenTec [mailto:tentec-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of
>> rick@dj0ip.de
>> Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 4:55 PM
>> To: 'Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment'
>> Subject: Re: [TenTec] notch filter for Eagle?
>>
>> Dave,
>>
>> That is only because Rob Sherwood worked long and hard on Ten-Tec and FLEX
>> to fix their problems. When they originally shipped, neither were any good
>> at blanking electric fences.
>> We all owe Rob a huge amount of gratitude for the many years of service he
>> has given us.
>>
>> 73
>> Rick, DJ0IP
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: TenTec [mailto:tentec-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of David W
>> LeJeune, Sr
>> Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 9:48 PM
>> To: 'Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment'
>> Subject: Re: [TenTec] notch filter for Eagle?
>>
>> I have an electrical fence next door. Both the noise blanker in my Orion II
>> and the one in my Flex 6500 easily take out that type of noise as well as
>> ignition noise. The Orion has a manual notch filter (sort of). It's really
>> a fixed freq notch at either 300 hz or 1050 hz. You can use that with CW
>> and the RIT - move the interfering hetrodyne inside of the selected notch.
>> Of course, you have to accept the change in the pitch of the CW signal.
>>
>> Dave WN5V
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: TenTec [mailto:tentec-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of
>> rick@dj0ip.de
>> Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 9:36 AM
>> To: 'Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment'
>> Subject: Re: [TenTec] notch filter for Eagle?
>>
>> Gary,
>>
>> Your Pro 2 of course is ancient history now. Was a great radio in its day.
>> Manual notch filters are fine on CW because "we" use our brain to notch the
>> disturbance and not the desired frequency. The auto-notch can't tell the
>> difference.
>>
>> Regardless of what it can and can't do, if it dies, you probably won't even
>> get spare parts for it. And brand new radios are no longer coming with
>> manual notch filters (except for the old stock sitting on shelves and being
>> offered at dumping prices to get rid of it).
>>
>> If my memory serves me right, that was still one of the radios with a useful
>> noise blanker for blanking out electrical fences. None of the new DSP noise
>> blankers can do that as well as the old noise blankers.
>>
>> There certainly were advantages in the older radios but we will probably
>> only see one more new radio come out in Japan with that old technology...at
>> the end of this year.
>>
>> I don't know if Mike will bring out an Eagle or Omni VII again. The eagle
>> has a good noise blanker, the OM7 has a DSP blanker, but it has been
>> improved in firmware for use near electrical fences; still not as good as
>> older technology though.
>>
>> Ones step forward, two steps back! (hi)
>>
>> 73
>> Rick
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: TenTec [mailto:tentec-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Dukes HiFi
>> Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 4:03 PM
>> To: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment
>> Cc: Bernie Skoch
>> Subject: Re: [TenTec] notch filter for Eagle?
>>
>> In side-by-side comparison, an Icon IC-756 Pro2 notch filter versus an
>> Orion/Eagle type notch filter, using my Pro 2 manual notch filter (which
>> also works in CW, and is inside the AGC loop), I can hear weak but desired
>> signals far more easily with the otherwise inferior Pro 2 than I can with
>> the otherwise superior Orion/Eagle. This is especially true when the
>> offending carrier is keyed, since the Pro 2 receiver is not constantly
>> adjusting gain to compensate for the keyed offending carrier.
>>
>> One can SORT of obtain similar results by turning off the AGC in the
>> Orion/Eagle when using the notch filter as long as you don’t need any AGC
>> action.
>>
>> Gary
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Jul 20, 2017, at 8:34 AM, Bernie Skoch via TenTec<tentec@contesting.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Rick,
>>>
>>> I do not believe I am "out in right field."
>>>
>>> Someone commented that all Ten Tec notch filters are useless. I disagreed.
>>>
>>> 73,
>>> Bernie
>>>
>>>> On Jul 20, 2017, at 02:30, rick@dj0ip.de<Rick@DJ0IP.de> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> You guys are all out in right field.
>>>>
>>>> No radio's auto notch filter works in CW mode.
>>>> They cannot distinguish between the useful tone and the disturbing tone.
>>>>
>>>> And yes, in that case, a manual notch filter is indeed better, but
>>>> show me a radio built today that has one.
>>>>
>>>> I find the Eagle's notch filter effective on SSB.
>>>>
>>>> 73
>>>> Rick, DJ0IP
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: TenTec [mailto:tentec-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of
>>>> Bernie Skoch via TenTec
>>>> Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 3:21 AM
>>>> To: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment
>>>> Cc: Bernie Skoch; w2iy@verizon.net
>>>> Subject: Re: [TenTec] notch filter for Eagle?
>>>>
>>>> "It's sort of useless, like all Ten Tec notch filters..."
>>>>
>>>> I _LOVE_ my Orion II notch filter!
>>>>
>>>> The automatic feature is good, but the manual one is about the best
>>>> I've ever used.
>>>>
>>>> 73,
>>>> Bernie
>>>>
>>>>> On Jul 19, 2017, at 16:33, Gary F<dukeshifi@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> The Eagle does have a notch function. I don't recall how to activate
>>>>> it
>>>> but it is in the manual.
>>>>>
>>>>> It's sort of useless, like all Ten Tec notch filters, since it is
>>>>> outside
>>>> the AGC loop, so, while it does not have the carrier, it also
>>>> attenuated your desired signal by about as much as it reduces the carrier.
>>>>>
>>>>> The reduction to 20 watts in Tune is self-defense. Orion's do it
>>>>> too. This
>>>> is to prevent the presence of full 100 watts into a mismatch. It is
>>>> good policy.
>>>>>
>>>>> Orion's had an option in which you could press the Power button, I
>>>> believe, to get 100 watts in Tune after match had been reached.
>>>>>
>>>>> Red arid green the A//B VFO, there really is no A or B VFO in the
>>>> traditional sense and Eagle only has one tuning knob. Therefore, the
>>>> A/B indicator serves no function in transceive operation. In split
>>>> operation, that indicator should flip when going fro RX to TX to tell
>>>> you which displayed frequency is the TX frequency.
>>>>>
>>>>> Gary
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Jul 19, 2017, at 3:05 PM, Michael Tortorella<w2iy@verizon.net> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi all, I am hearing an awful lot of steady carrier signals up here
>>>>>> in
>>>> the
>>>>>> frozen north of Downeast Maine. Most are not very strong and they go
>>>> away
>>>>>> when I disconnect the antenna so they are external to the radio.
>>>>>> Today I am chasing TR8CA on 20 CW, he is way down in the noise, and
>>>>>> 100 Hz away from one of these carriers. Sure would be nice to have
>>>>>> something like a notch filter to help in situations like these but
>>>>>> I could not see anywhere in the manual or front panel where I could
>>>>>> notch the offending carrier. Is there any list wisdom on this?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On another note, I did contact service at TT last week with my
>>>>>> question about power out in autotune; after only a few days delay I
>>>>>> got an answer that the power out in autotune is 20 watts even
>>>>>> though the power output shown on the display is 100. This seems
>>>>>> not quite right from a human factors point of view, maybe there can
>>>>>> be a firmware fix? Also, when exchanging VFOs, the A,B labels do
>>>>>> not change even when the B vfo is in large type at the top of the
>>>>>> display. I find this confusing. OK, I guess this turned into a
>>>>>> longer letter about a couple of other things besides notch
>>>>>> filtering, so please excuse my prolixity and thank for the BW. Any
>>>>>> suggestions
>>>> appreciated.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks and 73, Mike W2IY
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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