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[TowerTalk] Re: Tower base hole?

To: "Robert Shauger" <rgshauger@myyellowstone.net>
Subject: [TowerTalk] Re: Tower base hole?
From: "Bill Marx" <bmarx@bellsouth.net>
Reply-to: Bill Marx <bmarx@bellsouth.net>
Date: Sun, 7 Sep 2003 14:35:21 -0400
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Hurricane Andrew?
Bill Marx W2CQ


> I have noticed many of tower bases designs are being redesigned for larger
> and deeper bases for the exact same tower model.
>
> Is there a reason for this, other than manufacturing liability issues?  Just
> curious.
>
> 73, Bob - AI7M
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: <K7LXC@aol.com>
> To: <ve4xt@mts.net>; <towertalk@contesting.com>
> Sent: Sunday, September 07, 2003 6:17 AM
> Subject: Re: Fw: [TowerTalk] Re: Tower base hole?
>
>
> > In a message dated 9/6/03 9:12:07 PM Pacific Daylight Time, ve4xt@mts.net
> > writes:
> >
> > > My bigger concern with an 8-foot deep hole isn't with how to dig it,
> but,
> > >  depending on the soil, how to keep it from collapsing in on me as I do.
> > >
> > >  For that reason, anything that allows you to dig the hole without being
> in
> > >  the hole is a good thing.
> >
> >     Good point. US OSHA rules say that any hole deeper than 4-feet needs
> to
> > be shored up to prevent cave-in injury. Any time you're in over your head,
> it's
> > dangerous.
> >
> >     I have a big problem with difficult and/or dangerous hole designs. US
> > Tower and Trylon have some stupid designs. Trylon wants you to bell out
> the
> > bottom of their bases which means you have to be in a 5-1/2 to 6-foot-plus
> hole and
> > dig the bell portion out by hand. In some soil conditions this is almost
> > impossible. In all cases it's potentially dangerous. UST wants you to dig
> a
> > 4x4x7-feet deep (or even 3x3x-6-feet deep) hole. These bases were designed
> by
> > engineers sitting in air-conditioned offices who never have tried to build
> one of
> > these things. I much prefer having a shallower but wider base - easier to
> > excavate and not dangerous at all. Don't get me started!!!!
> >
> >     You can have your PE design the base to your particular configuration
> and
> > requirements so you don't have to put up with a stupid factory design.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Steve     K7LXC
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