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Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] [SteppIR] Advice on Tower
From: "Bernard" <wtrone@comcast.net>
Reply-to: Bernard <wtrone@comcast.net>
Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2008 14:33:37 -0500
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    Ron: I am currently in the process of putting up a U.S. Tower MA-850 with 
the rotor base and will be putting a 3 element SteppIR with the 40/30 
modification on top.  At a 70 mph wind and the tower fully erected, I will 
surely be in an overload condition if there is no margin in the specifications. 
 I went through a lot of consideration, emails, and conversation before I 
selected this tower because of the 70 mph wind load limitations.  

    I think that you will find that the tower companies will be very reluctant 
to talk about margin and overload.  I tried, several times, and was NOT able to 
get that information.  If anyone has that information, I would sure like to get 
it.

    My solution?  I bought the fully motorized tower.  I plan to keep it 
retracted unless I am operating.  While I was not able to get actual wind load 
numbers for the retracted tower, I am lead to believe that it is much, much 
higher than the SteppIR will present, maybe by a factor 5 or more.

    Good luck getting your tower up.

            73s,

            Bernard, WA4OEJ  




  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: w4lde 
  To: TowerTalk ; SteppIR Yahoo Group 
  Sent: Sunday, June 22, 2008 10:39 AM
  Subject: [SteppIR] Advice on Tower


  I recently have moved to a new home, SW of Atlanta and have a SteppIR 
  3-element with the 30/40 add on sitting in the garage waiting on a new 
  tower.

  I have approval from the HOA and County to erect a Tower, home deed was 
  filed with modifications to allow a ham radio tower and antennas.

  Although no specific restrictions on height or style are place on me by 
  the HOA or the deed modifications, when I started the process
  I thought a US Tower MARB-550 would look very neighbor friendly and be 
  easy to get buy in's by all.

  I already have a base for the tower in-place but I am a little concerned 
  as to the ratings for the MARB when comparing a TX-455 style.

  My Counties wind rating is 70MPH, we have already seen 50MPH gusts 
  during a thunderstorm recently.

  The tower is rated at 9 sq/ft at 70 MPH and 61#'s weight, the specified 
  wind load by SteppIR is 8.1 sq/ft. at 58#'s I would elect to use the 
  rotating n base thus keeping the rotor at the bottom of the tower and 
  reducing the extra weight and little load.

  Now the questions?

  1. Since I am almost right on top of the spec's, wind load and weight, 
  should I abandon this Tower selection.
  a. As it now stands I have a 3'-6" x 3'- 6" x 6" concrete base with 
  rebar and mounting bolts per the US tower spec's

  2. Is there a way to adapt any type of rotating guy device to this 
  type of tower?

  3. I would also like to hear from SteppIR - US Tower users with similar 
  setups.

  Plans are to erect the Tower some time in mid September or early October 
  depending on deliver time so I need to get the order underway.

  Maybe I can improve on the ratings by not keeping the Tower raised to 
  the maximum height unless I am chasing some DX expedition or am I dreaming?

  73's de

  Ron W4LDE



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