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Re: [TowerTalk] Ultrabeam OF ITALY

To: ve4xt@mts.net, bill rubin <brubin2010@gmail.com>, Jack - K4WSB <k4wsb@arrl.net>
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Ultrabeam OF ITALY
From: Per Molund <pmolund@online.no>
Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 23:43:40 +0200
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Kelly,

please deliver a new MonstIR at my door for 4500 USD, I will pay You 
immediately :-)

Joking aside, Wimo, one of the European distributors charges EUR 
4866.75 (EU tax included) for
the MonstIR ( http://www.wimo.com/framesetp_e.html ). Even SteppIR 
charges USD 5039 plus
shipping, import duties and VAT so I think Ultrabeam are quite 
competive in price.
http://www.steppir.com/files/InternationalWebPriceList.pdf

As for quality I do not have any idea.

regards,

Per
LA9XKA

At 18:59 29.07.2008, ve4xt@mts.net wrote:
>Hmm, let's see:
>
>Ultrabeam 4-el. 40-6m yagi: 4,850 euro
>Steppir Monstir, 4-el, 40-6m yagi: $4,500 ish.
>
>Considering that 4,850 euro translates to about US$7,550., I can't 
>quite comprehend the math that
>says buying the Italian knockoff saves any coin...
>
>Italians, however, could probably save loads of lira by buying the 
>Steppir. That $3,050 price difference
>pays for a whack of shipping!
>
>73, kelly
>
>
>
> >
> > From: "bill rubin" <brubin2010@gmail.com>
> > Date: 2008/07/29 Tue AM 10:32:56 CDT
> > To: "Jack - K4WSB" <k4wsb@arrl.net>
> > CC: David Jordan <wa3gin@comcast.net>,  TOWERTALK@contesting.com
> > Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Ultrabeam OF ITALY
> >
> > Even if they come up with a similar antenna, were is the support structure
> > for the item. With SteppIR you know they are in business and will be in
> > business for time to come.  So you can perhaps buy a knock-off and save a
> > few $ but what happens when you have an issue ?
> >
> > 73 Bill N1HWC proud owner of 3 ele 30/40 steppir.
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 8:21 AM, Jack - K4WSB <k4wsb@arrl.net> wrote:
> >
> > > Having an US Patent does not protect on the world market...
> > > You must acquire patents worldwide.
> > > The Italian knock-off could not be sold here under threat of lawsuit
> > > for patent infringement.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > At 09:00 AM 7/29/2008, Pete Smith wrote:
> > > >The reason I asked is that the motor housings looked very much like
> > > >SteppIRs, and the whole concept of the tape with holes and stepper motor
> > > >control struck me as unique enough that I'd thought SteppIR would have
> > > >patented it.  On the other hand, that didn't stop the Finns 
> from pirating
> > > >Force 12 designs.
> > > >
> > > >I'm just surprised, that's all - if I were doing business on 
> that scale I
> > > >think I'd want to be pretty sure I wasn't going to get sued, 
> particularly
> > > >in an EU country.
> > > >
> > > >73, Pete N4ZR
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >At 08:48 AM 7/29/2008, David Jordan wrote:
> > > > >Yikes, is this an antenna or legal reflector ;-)
> > > > >
> > > > >Don't have the answer to your question Pete but if I decide 
> to purchase
> > > the
> > > > >company I'll let you know...from the pics I'd say the 
> Italian version is
> > > a
> > > > >significant improvement mechanically with regard to element support
> > > which is
> > > > >what has me intrigued...
> > > > >
> > > > >73,
> > > > >Dave
> > > > >Wa3gin
> > > > >
> > > > >-----Original Message-----
> > > > >From: towertalk-bounces@contesting.com
> > > > >[mailto:towertalk-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Pete Smith
> > > > >Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 7:40 AM
> > > > >To: TOWERTALK@contesting.com
> > > > >Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] STEPPER OF ITALY
> > > > >
> > > > >At 11:46 PM 7/28/2008, Gia Gvaladze wrote:
> > > > > >Dave, know nothing about the antenna but here is the link
> > > > > >   http://www.ultrabeam.it/
> > > > > >73
> > > > > >   Gia 4L4WW
> > > > > >WA3GIN <wa3gin@comcast.net> wrote:
> > > > > >   Going to Italy soon and would like to visit that company that was
> > > > > > building the EURO version of the IR Stepper. Doesn anyone have the
> > > web
> > > > > > URL for that company?:
> > > > >
> > > > >Yikes, is this a licensed copy of the SteppIR technology, or 
> a rip-off?
> > > > >
> > > > >73, Pete N4ZR
> > >
> > > Jack Hartley
> > > K4WSB / VP2MSB
> > > ARRL - QCWA - OOTC
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> > >
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