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Re: [TowerTalk] Using a drill to install (Lay over - Raise) US Tower HDX

To: Brad Pioveson W9FX <w9fx@verizon.net>, Al Williams <alwilliams@olywa.net>, towertalk@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Using a drill to install (Lay over - Raise) US Tower HDX?
From: Tom Anderson <andersonww5l@sbcglobal.net>
Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 11:57:03 -0700 (PDT)
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Brad:

If you'll e-mail Bob, WB5IUU, in Magaolia TX, near
Houston. He can tell you call about the mechanical
winch that used to come with the TriEX W51.
bmennell@comcast.net

He should respond fairly quickly.  I've also cc'ed him
on this e-mail.

Tom, WW5L

 
--- Brad Pioveson W9FX <w9fx@verizon.net> wrote:

> Gents, FWIW, I have a TriEx W-51 (laying in the
> yard, still) with the 
> factory installed winch still mounted to it.  It's a
> worm gear driven hand 
> winch made by a company called  'Valley.'  Google
> tells me that, likely, the 
> manufacturer was a firm now known as Valley
> Industries.
> 
> I am ever so hopeful that the W-51, once it's in the
> air, with this Valley 
> winch is easier to get up and down than my US Tower
> TX-455 with it's twin 
> K-1550's.  Yikes!  The TX-455 is scheduled for a
> winch transplant (I bought 
> a used Thern worm gear drive, heavy duty winch with
> a drill drive adaptor) 
> soon.
> 
> 73
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Tom Anderson" <andersonww5l@sbcglobal.net>
> To: "Al Williams" <alwilliams@olywa.net>;
> <towertalk@contesting.com>
> Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 1:38 PM
> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Using a drill to install
> (Lay over - Raise) US 
> Tower HDX?
> 
> 
> > Al:
> >
> > I originally had a (2 actually)Fulton K-1550 winch
> on
> > my TriEx W51 crank up tower for raising and
> lowering
> > the tower's top 2 sections only.  I replaced them
> with
> > a Fulton K-2550, because of the horrendous squeal
> from
> > the K-1550s disc pads, etc. (which had been
> replaced
> > when the first set completely deteriorated in the
> wx
> > outside.  I tried just replacing the pads, but
> could
> > never get the K-1550 even apart no matter how much
> > force, etc. I applied, so I got a second 1550 and
> the
> > problem was still there, although the pads have
> lasted
> > much longer.
> >
> > The squeal was so loud my neighbors would come
> outside
> > and see who/what was screaming in the
> neighborhood.
> > I'm surprised someone didn't call the police.
> >
> > Finally gave up and replaced it.
> >
> > Apparently TriEx formerly used a mechanical
> locking
> > winch with the W51.  A friend of mine who has a
> W51 a
> > few years older than mine has a "mechanical" winch
> > that is geared and he says that's what came with
> it
> > from TriEx.  No pads, no squeal.  Its all gears.
> > 73 de
> > Tom, WW5L
> >
> >
> > --- Al Williams <alwilliams@olywa.net> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message ----- 
> >> From: "Richard (Rick) Karlquist"
> >> <richard@karlquist.com>
> >> Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 8:14 AM
> >> > I replaced the K2550 on my TRX-100HD with a
> W3000.
> >>  It decreased the
> >> > cranking effort from extremely difficult to
> >> difficult.  (With the K2550,
> >> > raising the tower was truly an athletic event.)
> >> The drill has
> >> > enough torque (rated 410 inch lbs) to lower the
> >> tower, but it cannot
> >> > raise the tower from a horizontal position.  Of
> >> course, once the
> >> > tower is tilted up a ways, then the drill can
> take
> >> over.
> >> >
> >> I replaced the k1550 winch with a k2550 winch but
> it
> >> was still pretty
> >> difficult to crank so I modified the raising
> >> (layover) pulley arrangement by
> >> adding two more pulleys to get the mechanical
> >> advantage.  Now it is much
> >> easier to crank but takes a lot of crank turns
> which
> >> means that I am lifing
> >> my arm weight much more.  I have been using a 1/2
> >> drill that works fine
> >> (after I manually get the tower lifted up a bit)
> and
> >> of course it is easier
> >> to lower the tower.  I have never seen smoke from
> >> the brake pads or heard
> >> any squeal protest.
> >>
> >> I am curious as to whether the pressure on the
> >> brakepads ( hence less squeal
> >> and smoke) is decreased if the weight that the
> winch
> >> is lifting is reduced.
> >> Perhaps a mechanical engineer can answer this (or
> >> other qualified person!)?
> >>
> >> k7puc
> >>
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