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Re: [TowerTalk] Balun for G5RV

To: DGB <ns9i2016@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Balun for G5RV
From: Kevin Normoyle <knormoyle@surfnetusa.com>
Date: Tue, 01 Feb 2011 19:11:56 -0800
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On 2/1/2011 6:20 PM, DGB wrote:
> ....   and I repeat ....  is it acceptable to enclose it in a
> non-conductive enclosure, on a multiband antenna, say resonant on 160 or
> 80,  especially at high power (1500w)?
>
> 73 Dwight NS9I
If you want to make some estimates:

I used this paper before to make some rough guesses at thermal dissipation for 
enclosed electronics
http://www.hoffmanonline.com/stream_document.aspx?rRID=233311&pRID=162534 
<http://www.hoffmanonline.com/stream_document.aspx?rRID=233311&pRID=162534>

Assume you need to dissipate 30W or so. You can derate that by some duty cycle 
(assuming you listen sometimes? :)
It's all about the total surface area of the box and it's material. Just 
because 
it's enclosed, doesn't mean it doesn't dissipate.
Plus: a little breeze and you've got airflow on the surface.

The biggest heat rise will actually be from the sun, I believe. (see evaluation 
of solar heat gain)

Look at those charts and think about the black baluns you've seen.
White is right!

I was also going to comment on how I used 16 awg silver plated teflon for my 
bifilar windings so I could fit enough turns but still get substantial turn to 
turn spacing.

Also, I've not seen enough agreement on the sources of stray capacitance..from 
what I read, the winding to core substantial capacitance...I wrapped my core 
with two layers of the yellow gas teflon tape (easier to handle than the thin 
white stuff). I've seen some stuff showing that tight winding of enamelled wire 
has more stray capacitance than insulated wire (which gets the wire up off the 
core). Thoughts?

But then I figured I'd keep my mouth shut, because Jim will probably say 
parallel #12 THHN has lower impedance than my #16 parallel insulated. I suspect 
they're both about same though.

-kevin
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