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Re: [TowerTalk] 15 meter yagi height for 6000 miles

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Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] 15 meter yagi height for 6000 miles
From: <john@kk9a.com>
Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2012 19:18:45 -0000
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You can work DX with almost any antenna.  N6BT worked all continents in two 
days running 120 watts to a light bulb.

Some people enjoy building their station and maximizing their signal.  K6UJ 
asked what was the BEST height for a 15m yagi for contacting someone 6000 miles 
away.  Unfortunately there is no single best height, as conditions vary.

73,
John KK9A


  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: David Blake 
  To: john@kk9a.com ; towertalk@contesting.com 
  Sent: Friday, March 02, 2012 17:39
  Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] 15 meter yagi height for 6000 miles


  John et al-


  All this may be true to some extent but the majority of us don't have the 
option of stacked
  HF yagis at 90'  HI.


  I have never had an tower higher than 48 feet yet somehow have managed to 
work ALL  DXCCs (#1 Honor Roll).  and all 40 zones
  on 6 bands.  Over 300 DXCCs on 6 bands, etc, etc.   My point is that you can 
do a lot with antennas at much less than what some
  computer program says is optimum.


  As Bill Moore says on the LoTW  page, "Go work some new ones."


  73, Dave -N4DB-




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  From: "john@kk9a.com" <kk9a@bellsouth.net>
  To: towertalk@contesting.com 
  Sent: Friday, March 2, 2012 10:36 AM
  Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] 15 meter yagi height for 6000 miles


  To get the main lob at 3 degrees the antenna would have to be 200' high 
(assuming flat ground).  This is a poor choice since it leaves a big null at 7 
degrees.  I have had good results on 15m with a single yagi around 90 feet 
high.  Of course stacked antennas are the ideal choice.

  John KK9A


  To:  towertalk@contesting.com 
  Subject:  Re: [TowerTalk] 15 meter yagi height for 6000 miles 
  From:  Jim Lux <jimlux@earthlink.net> 
  Date:  Thu, 01 Mar 2012 18:24:18 -0800 

  Here's the antenna book data for LosAngeles to EU  (LA to Paris is about 
  6000 mi).  It looks like you want an angle around 3-5 degrees, and maybe 
  a bump around 8-10 degrees.  These numbers come from VOACAP, I believe, 
  so you could get a copy of that load it up, and run it for your link.

  HFTA would then tell you how high to make the antenna to make that first 
  big lobe at 3 degrees.

  Los Angeles, Ca to Europe
  Elev      80m    40m    30m    20m    17m    15m    12m    10m
    1        2.5    6.6    4.1    6.8    4.8    1.8    0.0    0.0
    2        4.1    9.1  10.8    6.7    9.6    4.9    4.6    5.6
    3        4.2    7.0  15.3  13.7  17.5  20.2    6.2    0.0
    4      10.2  11.2  10.8    7.8  13.6  13.5    9.2    0.0
    5        6.2  10.2  14.2    5.1    5.6  12.3  15.4  22.2
    6        1.7    6.6  12.0    8.3    7.1    6.7    9.2  16.7
    7        3.5    3.3    8.1    8.6    6.8    7.4    9.2  16.7
    8        3.5    4.6    5.3  11.4    9.3    9.8  13.8  11.1
    9        9.3    5.6    2.7  10.0    7.6    9.2  13.8  22.2
  10        5.4  11.2    1.6    5.0    6.5    4.9    9.2    0.0
  11        5.2    6.5    4.4    5.0    3.4    3.7    3.1    5.6
  12        3.5    2.5    4.1    5.0    1.7    1.8    1.5    0.0
  13        7.5    1.0    2.8    2.1    2.8    1.2    0.0    0.0
  14        6.0    1.6    0.7    2.3    1.4    0.0    0.0    0.0
  15        4.6    4.5    0.4    0.6    1.4    1.8    3.1    0.0
  16        2.9    3.3    0.1    0.4    0.6    0.0    1.5    0.0
  17        4.3    2.4    1.2    0.5    0.3    0.6    0.0    0.0
  18        4.6    0.2    0.4    0.5    0.0    0.0    0.0    0.0
  19        3.4    0.7    1.1    0.4    0.0    0.0    0.0    0.0
  20        1.6    0.6    0.0    0.0    0.0    0.0    0.0    0.0



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