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Re: [TowerTalk] grounding elevated vertical for lightning?

To: "Jeff Blaine" <keepwalking188@yahoo.com>, "Jim Lux" <jimlux@earthlink.net>, <towertalk@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] grounding elevated vertical for lightning?
From: "Mark Robinson" <markrob@mindspring.com>
Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2013 15:43:18 -0500
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Could he not also ground through an rf choke to bleed off static?


Mark N1UK


----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeff Blaine" <keepwalking188@yahoo.com>
To: "Jim Lux" <jimlux@earthlink.net>; <towertalk@contesting.com>
Sent: Friday, 08 February, 2013 5:28 PM
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] grounding elevated vertical for lightning?


Spark gap it is, then...  Thanks for all the suggestions.

73/jeff/ac0c
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-----Original Message----- From: Jim Lux
Sent: Friday, February 08, 2013 3:37 PM
To: towertalk@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] grounding elevated vertical for lightning?

On 2/8/13 10:36 AM, Jim Brown wrote:
On 2/8/2013 5:52 AM, K1TTT wrote:
What is the best way to ground this antenna?  Can I put a few ground
rods at
the center base and run them up to the radial junction?

NO! The work of Rudy Severns, N6LF, on the topic of elevated radials
shows that elevated radials should NOT be grounded, because doing so
causes radial currents to be unbalanced, which increases loss.  For the
same reason, a common mode choke must be used on the coax at the feedpoint.

Exactly... this was one of the interesting non-intuitive findings when
NEC3 and NEC4 were being validated: antenna performance with radials
alone was better than with the ground rod added.


I assume you want to ground for lightning protection?  Then a spark gap
is your friend. Open circuit for RF, but when lightning strikes, it
closes.  Hook the spark gap to your ground rods and to your antenna, and
you're all set.  A 1/10" gap breaks down at 7kV. Needle gap is more like
2kV.




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