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Re: [TowerTalk] Driving ground rods

To: Patrick Greenlee <patrick_g@windstream.net>, Towertalk Mailing List <towertalk@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Driving ground rods
From: Gary K9GS <garyk9gs@wi.rr.com>
Reply-to: garyk9gs@wi.rr.com
Date: Sun, 13 Oct 2013 21:35:22 -0500
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All good advice Patrick. I especially like the idea of slipping pipe over the ground rod. I used 5/8" ground rods so bending wasn't a problem. I also had a friend helping so had an extra pair of hands to steady the ground rod while driving.

Interesting that you should mention using the demo hammer without a bit. I have a Home Depot 5 miles from my house. The bit that they had was for 1/2 " ground rods. I ended up driving to another Home Depot 12 miles away and they had one with a 3/4 " opening. I had thought about not using a bit. Glad I didn't!

The end of the rod did mushroom a bit but really a negligible amount. Much less than if I had used a sledgehammer.

Someone asked me off the list if I knew the model number of the demo hammer and the type of bit used. Here is my response to him:



I should have written down the model number but did not. Home Depot had several different sizes but I think this is the one I rented:

http://www.makitatools.com/en-us/Modules/Tools/ToolDetails.aspx?Name=HM0870C

I do remember that the information plate on the demo hammer said 10 amps if that helps.

This looks like the driver bit that they had.

http://www.makitatools.com/en-us/Modules/Accessories/AccessoryDetails.aspx?ID=34237

They included the bit with the rental along with 2 X 50 ft very heavy duty extension cords (they were ~ 1" in diameter).

One of the ground rods was ~175 feet from the nearest outlet. I had a 100 ft heavy duty extension and the two cords they supplied made up the difference. By the way, they also use these driver bits to drive tent stakes in asphalt parking lots. They may be more familiar with the bit being used for that purpose.

The whole thing cost me $44 to rent for 4 hours. The trip to and from the Home Depot took longer than it took to drive in the ground rods.



On 10/13/2013 9:20 PM, Patrick Greenlee wrote:
Ditto, I use a Harbor Freight demo hammer and a home brew insert (to avoid $80 + shipping for store bought AKA COTS.) Works good but in really hard ground takes a while and don't forget the hearing protection. When driving rods with a sledge in hard ground the rod tends to bend. Before driving in these conditions slip a piece of pipe over the rod to keep it from bending. You may need 2-3 different lengths of pipe to accommodate the shortening ground rod as it is driven.

Warning: do not try to drive the rod with a demo hammer by inserting the end of the rod into the hammer. The rod may mushroom and then be locked inside the hammer, PERMANENTLY. I came close, hence the home brew attachment for rod driving.

Patrick AF5CK

-----Original Message----- From: Gary K9GS
Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2013 8:13 PM
To: Towertalk Mailing List
Subject: [TowerTalk] Driving ground rods

While on the topic of ground rods.

Today I had to drive some 5/8 X 8 foot ground rods.  I live on top of a
ridge that was part of the glacial push South into Southern Wisconsin.
Think sandy rocky soil with many rocks about fist sized plus hard clay.
25 years ago I had to dig a hole for a mailbox post and it took me all
day with a post hole digger.

Anyway, to drive these ground rods I rented a demolition hammer from
Home Depot.  Think small electric jack hammer that looks like a big
drill.  Made by Makita.  In place of the chisel that is usually used,
they had a bit made for driving ground rods.  Basically a hollow sleeve
that fits over the end of the ground rod.

Used an 8 ft stepladder and a friend to help.  The ground rods went in
like a hot knife through butter.  Each one took less than 5 minutes and
no pounding with a sledge hammer, water pipes, post driver, etc. Truly
amazingly fast.  The best money I've ever spent.


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73,

Gary K9GS

Greater Milwaukee DX Association: http://www.gmdxa.org
Society of Midwest Contesters: http://www.w9smc.com
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