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Re: [TowerTalk] HF winch

To: David Robbins K1TTT <k1ttt@arrl.net>
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] HF winch
From: Mike Reublin NF4L <nf4l@comcast.net>
Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2014 09:26:35 -0500
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Thanks David,

The plan is to have a 10' tall mast, and attach the cable 10' from the bottom 
of the tower, giving a circa 45 degree pull when the tower is horizontal.

Do you know a formula a non-engineer could use to calculate the pull? The ones 
I find are all based on Newtons, And not the one I know, Fig.

Mike NF4L

On Feb 3, 2014, at 8:59 AM, David Robbins <k1ttt@verizon.net> wrote:

> yes, the pull on the cable goes up quickly as the tower tilts... it can be 
> way more than the weight of the tower, especially if not connected at the top 
> of the tower and if it doesn't have enough height.
> 
> also, think about the pulley system again.. if you go to 2 or 3 to one 
> advantage you also have to handle 2 or 3 times as much cable on the drum... 
> AND have to run the winch for 2 or 3 times longer to wind or unwind that 
> cable.  getting that advantage does come with a cost!
> 
> 
> 
> Feb 3, 2014 08:54:30 AM, john@kk9a.com wrote:
> 
> I am not a mechanical engineer, wouldn't the pull on the cable be
> significantly more than the weight of the tower when tilting it? Then you
> plan on running a 55 amp motor with a 20 amp power supply?
> 
> John KK9A
> 
> 
> To: towertalk reflector 
> Subject: [TowerTalk] HF winch
> From: Mike Reublin NF4L 
> Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2014 07:46:27 -0500
> 
> I picked up a 2500 lb. rated 12V. winch from Harbor Freight intending to
> use it
> for tilting my HG-70HD tower. Weight with antennae and rotor etc. is between
> 1200 and 1300 lbs. I was hoping to run it from a 20A power supply.
> 
> I plan on a pulley arrangement that will give me a 2:1 advantage. I could
> go to
> 3:1.
> 
> If I read the specs right, the winch draws 55 amps when the load is 1000 lbs.
> The duty cycle is 45 seconds on, 14 MINUTES off. Mounting is 2 bolts,
> M8-1.25x35 mm.
> 
> Seems a tad sketchy. Your opinion?
> 
> 73, Mike NF4L
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