I agree that an edit function would be nice BUT you do not have to shut
down. I have NO TROUBLE WHATSOEVER running from a DOS window. DO that and it
will be easy to keep an editor up.
If your machine can't handle that, I am sorry, but you should update it. It
would be MUCH easier and MUCH cheaper than the result of tree creating a
true windows app (which I would love and would buy) but that is really oput
of the question I think. As pointed out , that is NOT an easy task and you
would NOT want to pay the price.
Logic 5 is a BEAUTIFUL FULL WINDOWS app logger and puts TR to shame (for
logging) but cannot hold a candle to it for contesting.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-trlog@contesting.com [mailto:owner-trlog@contesting.com]On
> Behalf Of Bill R
> Sent: Friday, November 05, 1999 9:40 AM
> To: Bob Wruble; Dale L. Martin; trlog@contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [TRLog] Very Pleased
>
>
>
> Bob,
> You're missing the point, a logging program should allow
> you to edit in real time to maintain an up to date and accurate log.
> A contest program should allow you to work quickly.
> Shutting down, running an editor, and restarting TR is not
> very quick ...not to mention A LOT of extra unnecessary work.
> Control - N is only a band-aid that does nothing for real time accuracy.
> 73 Bill N9BR
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Bob Wruble <ai7b@teleport.com>
> To: Bill <n9br@rsg.org>; Dale L. Martin <kg5u@hal-pc.org>;
> <trlog@contesting.com>
> Sent: Friday, November 05, 1999 7:32 AM
> Subject: Re: [TRLog] Very Pleased
>
>
> > hey if the ability to edit every contact in the log real time
> > is an issue then shut the pgm dwn and edit the log.dat file with ur text
> > editior and then go back in.......!!
> >
> > from my experience alt-n works great for noting any suspected
> > probs with a qso past the last five........besides with all
> this emphasis
> > on logging accuracy edit situations shud be rare!!
> >
> > w7gg
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Bill <n9br@rsg.org>
> > To: Dale L. Martin <kg5u@hal-pc.org>; <trlog@contesting.com>
> > Sent: Thursday, November 04, 1999 6:43 PM
> > Subject: Re: [TRLog] Very Pleased
> >
> >
> > >
> > > Hi Dale,
> > > Give me a break...don't you think accuracy would
> > > give you a better score? Control N ...what?
> > > Doesn't it seem a little strange that you can have a
> > > logging program that you CAN'T edit a logged entry.
> > > I can't believe I'm having this conversation.
> > > I need to keep a log of errors for my logged
> > > entries.... what?
> > > I would think the "PRIME DIRECTIVE" would be to
> > > accurately keep track of your contacts AND accurate
> > > running totals .That might impact the outcome.. These are
> > > not accurate if I can't edit my log in real time. Maybe this
> > > could be a multiplier logged wrong....that I won't chase
> > > because TR says its already in the log. Could be a
> > > band mistake. Could be any number of things that
> > > could impact my "performance"
> > >
> > > Dale wrote.....
> > >
> > > > A full log editing feature is something that can and probably should
> > > > be handled AFTER the contest or during a break.
> > >
> > > Why?...Why should I wait till after the contest is over before
> > > fixing a mistake AND getting an accurate picture of my
> > > performance during a contest. Why is this better done "AFTER"?
> > >
> > > Dale wrote...
> > >
> > > If I need to edit more than 5 Q's back--I've gotten close, but it
> > > > hasn't happened yet--I think I would either stop where I am
> and go fix
> > > > it or simply put a CTL-N note in the log reminding me to
> fix it after
> > > > the contest.
> > > >
> > > Please note what you said...stop where I am and fix it....
> > > That's all I'd like to be able to do without shutting the
> program down,
> > > starting a text editor, finding, fixing, closing and starting TR again
> > > etc etc.
> > > Do you like having totals wrong?. Does it somehow
> > > improve your performance? Isn't having an accurate log
> > > and score more important then most of the bells and
> > > whistles that, I'm betting a good number of TR users
> > > don't understand,....much less use?
> > > I don't expect Tree is going to "fix" it anytime soon...but Jeez
> > > would you at least agree an accurate and timely log is better
> > > then an inaccurate one the should be fixed....after the contest?
> > > How about at least a ..REAL TIME EDITOR....(Default off)
> > > something simple.......dream on...I guess I better practice
> > > my CW skills....Now if you guys would just stop making
> > > mistakes sending it...I wouldn't have a need to edit my log
> > > during OR after the contest......
> > > 73 Bill N9BR
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > .----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Dale L. Martin <kg5u@hal-pc.org>
> > > To: <trlog@contesting.com>
> > > Sent: Thursday, November 04, 1999 3:51 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [TRLog] Very Pleased
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > >Hi Rod,
> > > > > Say what you want...I'm a life subscriber...TR user by
> choice and
> > > > still
> > > > >DO think it is a shortcoming in the program. In my view it
> would be a
> > > > better
> > > > >program if it could incorporate the seamless ease of correcting any
> > > > entry
> > > > >in the log at will....WITHOUT having to use a separate text editor.
> > > > >Wake up...it's a logging program....can you understand that maybe
> > > > >I'd like to modify an entry in my log even after I've worked five
> > > > others
> > > > >Q's?
> > > >
> > > > My understanding of Tree's "Prime Directive" (Hey! Tower Talk has a
> > > > Prime Directive, TRLog should have one, too!) is that additions,
> > > > deletions, modifications, new bells & whistles, etc., would only be
> > > > made if it helped to increase an operator's performance and score in
> > > > realtime operating. Is that not so?
> > > >
> > > > A full log editing feature is something that can and probably should
> > > > be handled AFTER the contest or during a break.
> > > >
> > > > If I need to edit more than 5 Q's back--I've gotten close, but it
> > > > hasn't happened yet--I think I would either stop where I am
> and go fix
> > > > it or simply put a CTL-N note in the log reminding me to
> fix it after
> > > > the contest.
> > > >
> > > > Keep making my score bigger, Tree!!!
> > > >
> > > > 73,
> > > > dale, kg5u
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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