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1. [RFI] RFI - A Losing Battle (score: 1): Author: Jim McCook <w6ya@cox.net>; Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2020 02:47:21 +0000; There is a lot here that doesnt make any sense to me.It appears to be a fantasy that there is a FCC regulation to prevent harmful interference to licensed radio communication.Interference is interfer; /archives//html/RFI/2020-09/msg00010.html (8,264 bytes)
2. Re: [RFI] RFI - A Losing Battle (score: 1): Author: David Eckhardt <davearea51a@gmail.com>; Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2020 03:15:34 +0000; Jim W6YA, you are so correct. Us EMC/RFI engineers are only small voices in a huge forest of lawyers. And China has taught industry that cheating is OK and you're likely not going to be caught. The F; /archives//html/RFI/2020-09/msg00011.html (10,605 bytes)
3. [RFI] RFI - A Losing Battle (score: 1): Author: Jim McCook <w6ya@cox.net>; Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2020 03:31:08 +0000; Correction: Part 15(m). Jim _______________________________________________ RFI mailing list RFI@contesting.com http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/rfi; /archives//html/RFI/2020-09/msg00012.html (6,366 bytes)
4. Re: [RFI] RFI - A Losing Battle (score: 1): Author: "Hare, Ed W1RFI" <w1rfi@arrl.org>; Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2020 19:39:21 +0000; Yes, we might all benefit from a new agency, but this is not going to happen, so we will continue to do the best we can. To really understand this problem, we need to look at Sec. 15.3 closely. Here; /archives//html/RFI/2020-09/msg00097.html (13,333 bytes)
5. Re: [RFI] RFI - A Losing Battle (score: 1): Author: Dave Cole <dave@nk7z.net>; Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2020 14:00:40 -0700; Perhaps the FCC will use that $50.00 per renewal they are talking about to perform RFI enforcement? Sorry, I had too... :) 73, and thanks, Dave (NK7Z) https://www.nk7z.net To really understand this p; /archives//html/RFI/2020-09/msg00099.html (14,517 bytes)
6. Re: [RFI] RFI - A Losing Battle (score: 1): Author: KD7JYK DM09 <kd7jyk@earthlink.net>; Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2020 14:26:49 -0700; Perhaps the FCC will use that $50.00 per renewal they are talking about to perform RFI enforcement? Perhaps asking for a refund for the past few worthless decades may get a better response. We don 't; /archives//html/RFI/2020-09/msg00101.html (8,036 bytes)
7. Re: [RFI] RFI - A Losing Battle (score: 1): Author: Jim Brown <jim@audiosystemsgroup.com>; Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2020 14:42:06 -0700; In this excellent post, Ed articulates what, in the architectural design meetings for the large sound systems I made my living designing, we called "an electro-political problem" or an "acousti-polit; /archives//html/RFI/2020-09/msg00102.html (8,659 bytes)
8. Re: [RFI] RFI - A Losing Battle (score: 1): Author: Michael Aust via RFI <rfi@contesting.com>; Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2020 22:27:38 +0000 (UTC); Perhaps asking for a refund for the past few worthless decades may get a better response. We don 't pay taxes for nothing, but that's almost entirely what we get. Kurt ______________________________; /archives//html/RFI/2020-09/msg00104.html (8,546 bytes)
9. Re: [RFI] RFI - A Losing Battle (score: 1): Author: Kim Elmore <cw_de_n5op@sbcglobal.net>; Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2020 17:41:57 -0500; I think many need to carefully read what Ed writes here. Be extremely careful of wanting hard-set limits because that's what we'll get. Imagine "USC X.XX.XX Para 7 states radiated emission will be no; /archives//html/RFI/2020-09/msg00105.html (16,210 bytes)
10. Re: [RFI] RFI - A Losing Battle (score: 1): Author: David Eckhardt <davearea51a@gmail.com>; Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2020 22:50:57 +0000; If I read between the lines and, in summary, the first contact should be with the ARRL. They (still) have the capability of working on a technical basis with the amateurs and, most importantly, still; /archives//html/RFI/2020-09/msg00106.html (17,462 bytes)
11. Re: [RFI] RFI - A Losing Battle (score: 1): Author: KD7JYK DM09 <kd7jyk@earthlink.net>; Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2020 16:02:58 -0700; I think many need to carefully read what Ed writes here. Be extremely careful of wanting hard-set limits because that's what we'll get. Awesome. Just make them very low. Nobody ever suggested strivin; /archives//html/RFI/2020-09/msg00107.html (9,619 bytes)
12. Re: [RFI] RFI - A Losing Battle (score: 1): Author: David Eckhardt <davearea51a@gmail.com>; Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2020 23:25:15 +0000; If I read between the lines and, in summary, the first contact should be with the ARRL. They (still) have the capability of working on a technical basis with the amateurs and, most importantly, still; /archives//html/RFI/2020-09/msg00109.html (11,754 bytes)
13. Re: [RFI] RFI - A Losing Battle (score: 1): Author: "Hare, Ed W1RFI" <w1rfi@arrl.org>; Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2020 23:58:34 +0000; Yeah, although we do get the FCC to do some enforcement anyway. What is needed is a campaign to identify aggregious devices and report them to the FCC. ARRL has filed a few complaints about illegal d; /archives//html/RFI/2020-09/msg00111.html (19,367 bytes)
14. Re: [RFI] RFI - A Losing Battle (score: 1): Author: "Hare, Ed W1RFI" <w1rfi@arrl.org>; Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2020 00:05:18 +0000; Yes, and in response to a related question about how to approach a neighbor, this can be the real stumbling block. First, that neighbor does not have our understanding of the RFI issues. To our neigh; /archives//html/RFI/2020-09/msg00112.html (11,049 bytes)
15. Re: [RFI] RFI - A Losing Battle (score: 1): Author: Dave Cole <dave@nk7z.net>; Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2020 21:59:08 -0700; Given the current enforcement levels, even if the FCC gave us exactly what we wanted, it still needs to be enforced... So, it makes little difference, save lets not set a precedent we don't like. 73,; /archives//html/RFI/2020-09/msg00115.html (9,291 bytes)
16. Re: [RFI] RFI - A Losing Battle (score: 1): Author: Dave Cole <dave@nk7z.net>; Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2020 22:06:06 -0700; How can I help set this up Ed? I 100% agree... You all handed the FCC an open and shut case with Home Depot, and as far as I know, nothing ever happened... That does not bode well for enforcement...; /archives//html/RFI/2020-09/msg00116.html (20,460 bytes)
17. Re: [RFI] RFI - A Losing Battle (score: 1): Author: Gary Johnson <gwj@wb9jps.com>; Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2020 22:28:17 -0700; One approach that Ive used successfully with unfamiliar neighbors is to make a safety-related pitch. This is especially useful when you think the source is a lighting fixture or something like HVAC e; /archives//html/RFI/2020-09/msg00117.html (8,146 bytes)
18. Re: [RFI] RFI - A Losing Battle (score: 1): Author: Don Kirk <wd8dsb@gmail.com>; Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2020 01:58:13 -0400; Hi Gary, Yep, one example W9RE and I use is a guy near him that had the wrong Wall Wart plugged into a device and he said it was very hot. The homeowner was very happy that we found this problem for; /archives//html/RFI/2020-09/msg00118.html (9,078 bytes)
19. Re: [RFI] RFI - A Losing Battle (score: 1): Author: "Hare, Ed W1RFI" <w1rfi@arrl.org>; Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2020 14:40:13 +0000; We did have a good case against Home Depot, although for a number of reasons, this didn't get followed up. We also had a problem with a Walmart device, but they stopped selling it after stockout, as; /archives//html/RFI/2020-09/msg00121.html (22,783 bytes)
20. Re: [RFI] RFI - A Losing Battle (score: 1): Author: "Hare, Ed W1RFI" <w1rfi@arrl.org>; Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2020 14:42:06 +0000; Part of the problem is that "enforcement" of harmful interference is handled by the Enforcement Bureau, which we have working somewhat well. The emissions and marketing violations are enforced by the; /archives//html/RFI/2020-09/msg00122.html (22,688 bytes)

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