That's why you were trying to buy it from me Dan. I rest my case :)
At 01:18 PM 11/30/98 -0800, Radiodan W7RF wrote:
>>>>
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MS</param><color><param>0000,0000,ffff</param><smaller>I just found this
in my deleted items folder.
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<fontfamily><param>Comic Sans
MS</param><color><param>0000,0000,ffff</param><smaller>This is dated
11-18-98 from YOU Alan!
"Dan/George,
Actually, every 4K-Ultra I've ever owned (and I've owned 5; only have one
now) had about 4300 V.D.C. under <underline>full</underline> load. But
then again, my incoming ac line delivers 250 VAC- [thanks, Philadelphia
Electric Company :) ].
And without a doubt, the 4K-Ultra has the best RF components in the tank
circuit of any amateur amp ever built, Alpha included.
Alan, W3BV"
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<fontfamily><param>Comic Sans
MS</param><color><param>0000,0000,ffff</param><smaller>Maybe you forgot
how you praised the HENRY just a week earlier.
Are feeling well today Alan? (hihi)
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<fontfamily><param>Comic Sans MS</param>73, Dan Magro W7RF, (member
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SCCC</fontfamily><fontfamily><param>Comic Sans MS</param>)
Rugged, Reliable Henry HF Amps are
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<color><param>ffff,0000,0000</param>LESS!
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Roman</param><smaller>-----Original Message-----
<bold>From:</bold>
<<mailto:owner-amps@contesting.com>owner-amps@contesting.com
[<<mailto:owner-amps@contesting.com>mailto:owner-amps@contesting.com]<bold>On
Behalf Of</bold> Alan Gray
<bold>Sent:</bold> Monday, November 30, 1998 11:46 AM
<bold>To:</bold> Radiodan W7RF; <<mailto:K4ab@aol.com>K4ab@aol.com;
<<mailto:cq-contest@contesting.com>cq-contest@contesting.com
<bold>Cc:</bold> <<mailto:amps@contesting.com>amps@contesting.com
<bold>Subject:</bold> RE: [AMPS] (no subject)
</smaller></fontfamily>"Radio" Dan-
At 10:14 AM 11/30/98 -0800, Radiodan W7RF wrote:
>If there's confusion it's not on my part Alan,
>
>Let me "right" back to you this way....
>
>Which of the "current crop of amps" do you own where you know so much?
<bold>- Among others, amps by Harris, Henry (4K-Ultra) Alpha (87A & 77SX) Drake
(L-4-B), and a number of homebrew amps (4CX1500B, 8877, etc.)... as if that
matters. A
</bold>
>Fact: The transformers used are very reliable, we wouldn't continue to use
>them if they were junk!
<bold>FACT: Henry has persisted in using unreliable components in their amps
for years. Ask Pete Dahl how many transformers he sold to replace the early
Triad and current ECA transformers Henry put in their amps. Even the Henry 8K-s
have weak power supplies...all the guys around here who bought the vaunted
8K-Ultras had to buy replacement transformers.... And don't overlook the
history of failures Henry's had with the cheap Dayton blowers they use (e.g.,
in the 4K-Ultra).
</bold>
>Fact: The HENRY RF deck is and always has been very efficient.
>I don't see anyone else using a custom made roller inductor in the tank, and
>door knob caps switched in for plate C. Why? costs too much if you don't
>make the parts like HENRY does!
<bold>FACT: You and I both know Henry went to this make shift scheme as a cost
reduction scheme, not because it was a better way to go. And those roller
inductors are a joke (go look at the Johnson and Multronics inductors if you
want to see decent quality; Henry used to use them before the cost cutting took
over.
By the way, roller inductors are notoriously unreliable in r.f. tank circuits
due to arcing and pitting. RCA used to use this fact as a major weapon in its
sales campaigns against Gates (RCA used tapped inductors; Gates used roller
inductors in their tank circuits; Gates transmitters were famous for "zorched"
tank circuits).
</bold>>Sheet metal? You must be looking at something else. We use aluminum.
<bold>FACT: Last time I checked, aluminum was metal. And since its used by
Henry in sheets to make cabinets and chassis, its called "sheet metal" (see you
learned something new, Dan). At any rate, you dodged the issue.
Henry's cabinets <underline>never </underline>fit properly. I defy you to show
me a Henry amp cabinet with sheet metal fits properly with its screw holes
(Henry is famous for making the screw holes on their cabinets line up by
reaming out the holes; as a result, their amps always look like they were made
by "shoemakers")
</bold>FACT: And while you're at it, show me a Henry amp cabinet that doesn't
vibrate like the devil. Guess the solution is to buy a 3 or 8K-Ultra and put it
another room. That's a great selling point.... I don't use my 4K-Ultra very
much for because I can't stand the noise it makes. If you want quiet, don't buy
a Henry. Or at least, build an addition to the shack to isolate your Henry in
(unless you don't mind operating in an environment that sounds like you're on
the flight deck of an aircraft carrier.
Dan, the point of all this is to say that Henry amps are built for a price and
are not the most rugged, reliable amps built. At least not in my 30+ years of
working on them.
Alan, W3BV
<bold>
<underline>
</underline>
>73, Dan Magro W7RF, (member SCDXC, SCCC)
>Rugged, Reliable Henry HF Amps are "Instant on" for RF Power now!
>DXers/Contesters/Ragchewers get your HENRY from RADIODAN for LESS!
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>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Alan Gray [<<mailto:agray@voicenet.com>mailto:agray@voicenet.com]
>> Sent: Monday, November 30, 1998 9:21 AM
>> To: Radiodan W7RF; <<mailto:K4ab@aol.com>K4ab@aol.com;
>> <<mailto:cq-contest@contesting.com>cq-contest@contesting.com
>> Cc: <<mailto:amps@contesting.com>amps@contesting.com
>> Subject: RE: [AMPS] (no subject)
>>
>>
>> "Radio" Dan-
>>
>>
>> Before you confuse your marketing efforts with technical fact, in
>> the final
>> analysis your comments are still a salesman's hype.
>>
>> Fact is, Henry does, and always has, used a lot of marginal components in
>> their amps....like the ECA transformers...and the Triad
>> transformers before
>> them. And their current crop of amps use tank components that are nothing
>> to right home about either.....
>>
>> And most annoying of all, Henry still doesn't know how to make sheet metal
>> that fits right even after all these years.
>>
>> Alan, W3BV
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> At 02:12 PM 11/28/98 -0800, Radiodan W7RF wrote:
>> >
>> >HI Larry,
>> >
>> >They're not small, light, or compact, but they are THE most
>> Rugged, Reliable
>> >amplifiers anywhere.
>> >
>> >Get a HENRY. No brag........just FACT!
>> >
>> >
>> >73, Dan Magro W7RF, (member SCDXC, SCCC)
>> >Rugged, Reliable Henry HF Amps are "Instant on" for RF Power now!
>> >DXers/Contesters/Ragchewers get your HENRY from RADIODAN for LESS!
>> >***Subscribe to the HENRY reflector at <<http://www.qth.net>www.qth.net
>> ><<<<http://www.qth.net>http://www.qth.net>
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>> ><<http://www.radiodan.com>www.radiodan.com
>> ><<<<http://www.radiodan.com>http://www.radiodan.com>
>> ><<mailto:RFpower@radiodan.com>RFpower@radiodan.com
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>> >web site is worth the click!
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> From: <<mailto:owner-amps@contesting.com>owner-amps@contesting.com
>> >> [<<mailto:owner-amps@contesting.com>mailto:owner-amps@contesting.com]On
>> >> Behalf Of <<mailto:K4ab@aol.com>K4ab@aol.com
>> >> Sent: Saturday, November 28, 1998 1:13 PM
>> >> To: <<mailto:cq-contest@contesting.com>cq-contest@contesting.com
>> >> Cc: <<mailto:amps@contesting.com>amps@contesting.com
>> >> Subject: [AMPS] (no subject)
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> For the second time in as many contests, my Ameritron AL-1500
>> developed a
>> >> problem during the contest. Probably not a major problem, but
>> certainly a
>> >> nuisance.
>> >>
>> >> My question...what is the most durable, legal-limit, commercially
>> >> available
>> >> amp sold?
>> >>
>> >> I'm tired of having amp problems during the contests. I don't
>> >> mistreat the
>> >> amp, but I do run 'em hard..i.e.- CQ'ing for hours at a time.
>> >>
>> >> If a commercially available amp is not available, who homebrews
>> >> and sells the
>> >> best?
>> >>
>> >> Thanks!
>> >>
>> >> 73,
>> >> Larry K4AB
>> >>
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