Roger, have u thot of applying for membership in SOC ?
Meanwhile, all I can say is hook all this stuff up with the convient lengths of
coax and forget trying for perfection.
BUT, your coax switch may leak enuf RF into your antanna analyzer to burn it
out... if it is the MFJ one I think of.
Also, have u thot of a resonant antenna? 73,
Charles Harpole
k4vud@hotmail.com
> Date: Mon, 9 Aug 2010 00:52:43 -0400
> From: sub1@rogerhalstead.com
> To: Amps@contesting.com
> Subject: [Amps] Dummy load, tuner, antennas, amps, coax length...
>
> Not sure which reflector this one should go to as it includes coax
> length, antenna tuner, dummy load, and antenna.
> I'm going to try TT and AMPS, but not cross posted. I hate cross posting
> to other reflectors with a passion, particulaly when I'm not subscribed
> to the other one with the same e-mail address.
>
> At-any-rate, when I tune up the amp or match the exciter to an antenna,
> I have a coax switch between the exciter and amp on relatively short
> sections of RG8-X. The allows me to switch between the exciter and the
> antenna analyzer. Between the amp and tuner is a minimum length of
> LMR400UF as well as between the AUX connector and DL5K. So the thought
> is I can tune the antenna with the Palstar AT5K, then switch and tune
> the amp into the DL5K dummy load by going to the aux position which is a
> straight through to the dummy load. Of course there are lead lengths
> inside the AT5K and it's not a small tuner. Tuner to DL is only about
> 8". It's about a foot from the amp to the tuner, and from the exciter
> to amp (through that switch) is about 2'. The idea is to go on the air
> without ever tuning on the air. This has worked very well on the lower
> bands up through about 20, but I ran into two problems. The first is the
> R and X vary from 50 to about 30 ohms and the X goes from 0 to over 60
> ohms. It appears this is a function of the total distance between the
> exciter and the dummy load through the antenna tuner including all coax
> which above calculates out to about a minimum of 44" plus the distance
> inside the tuner. It *appears* I can ignore the distance inside the DL5K
> as it's coax that is compensated and does not appear to enter into the
> equation with the analyzer hooked directly to the input. Hooking the
> antenna analyzer to the dummy load confirms this with a virtually flat
> SWR of 1.1:1 from 1.8 through 30 MHz with R remaining 47 ohms across the
> range. Not quite perfect as I was aiming for 1.0:1, but it'll do. With
> the normal equipment configuration and leads as short as possible, the
> best I can get at 30 MHz is a tad over 3:1. I don't normally use the
> amp on 10, but still, I'd like the option without having to tune up on
> the air. I can match the coax lengths so the distance from the analyzer
> is the same as the exciter.
>
> I did have one resistor in the DL5K apparently change value a bit which
> was attributed to overheating, but as the most I can put into the DL5K
> is 2KW when pushing for tilt and then a slight back off of the drive,
> that puts me very close to the continuous ratings of the DL5K which BTW
> is a fan cooled, dry load.
> So as I try to keep the key down time limited, it's close to the
> continuous ratings with the max I can get out being 2KW or a bit less
> than a single 8877, I doubt it was overheated. Cooling is via a pair of
> fans that don't have quite enough power to move the DL5K off the desk
> when in high gear<:-)) They move a LOT of air!
>
> So, I'm trying to figure out how to get the DL5K to represent R=52 and
> X=0 across the HF bands and even 6 meters without having to hunt for
> specific coax lengths for everything from 20 on up through six.
>
> Any thoughts and suggestions? I could tune up on the air like most do,
> but I'd prefer to avoid that and can at present.
>
> 73
>
> Roger (K8RI)
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