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Re: [Amps] why a tube fails ?

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Subject: Re: [Amps] why a tube fails ?
From: "Roger (K8RI)" <k8ri@rogerhalstead.com>
Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2013 01:31:12 -0400
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On 8/27/2013 11:00 PM, Jim Garland wrote:
Hi Charles,
Very intersesting questions!  I can't help you with your question about tube
failure modes, though I know at least one mode with indirectly heated
cathode tubes is that excessive cathode current can cause the filament
coating to evaporate and coat the grid, which then starts emitting electrons
and quickly destroys the tube. .

I can be a bit more informed about your second question. First, a
nomenclature correction. Free electrons are not ions. Ions are atoms which
have temporarily lost or gained one or more electrons, and thus have a net
charge. For example, a hydrogen ion is just a proton, since a neutral
hydrogen atom normally has a proton nucleus and a single bound electron.
When that electron becomes unbound, the hydrogen atom becomes an ion.


As a tech this is my understanding:

Conventional current flow = + to -
Electron current = - to +

Conventional current flow and electron current flow are in general, nothing more than a convenience for the person tracing the circuit and conventional current generally confuses the technician. There are places where only one or the other works

Electron current confuses engineers.

Most semiconductor circuits are far easier to trace using conventional current.

OTOH tubes work with electron current and are much easier to explain using electron current. This can be proven using a magnet. Explain an X-Ray tube with conventional current when it's the impact of high speed electron (negative) into a copper or tungsten cathode (positive) that generate the X-Rays. Engineers insist on conventional current while the rest of us use electron current.

Electrons are emitted from the cathode and flow to the plate.
That flow is controlled by the grid and screen (if it's a tetrode)

There are a number of ways a tube can fail, outside of arcing

The cathode in indirectly heated tube like the 8877 and thoriated tungsten in tubes like the 3-500 will emit a given number of electrons at a given temperature at the rated filament voltage and current.

As tubes age this ability is finite. IOW as the cathode of either type ages it's ability to emit electrons decreases.

When the tube starts life it has a strong ability to emit electrons. As they age the cathode material is eroded. A little goes a long way. eventually there is not enough of this material that easily emits electrons left so that the tub's current is limited and it can no longer reach its full rated plate current at the original cathode voltage and current and is refereed to as soft. This is the normal method of failure.

Tubes, particularly glass one can also become gassy due to imperfect seals, Getterin can "eat up" some gas, so if the tube is not too bad it may be saved for a few more hours. Sometimes many more.

73

Roger (K8RI)


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