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Re: [CQ-Contest] Club/Group competition

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Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Club/Group competition
From: Prasad VU2PTT <vu2ptt@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2011 21:50:00 +0530
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Martin,

We kick started the VUCG (VU Contest Group) informally last year and plan to
have a formal presence starting this year. The sticking point for us has
been the distance from the central point to member stations as per the
current rules for Club competition.

In a country like India which has less than 20-25 active contesters, a
national contest club is the only option to give a sense of
team spirit, spread the word locally in their own areas and drive more
people into contesting.

We look forward to the day when Club competition will possibly be limited by
the national boundary + expeditions by members as the basis for computing
club scores. Even State or Province will not work here as we may find States
having no more than 4-5 active contesters!

73 de Prasad VU2PTT
VU Contest Group


On Sun, Apr 10, 2011 at 7:20 AM, Martin Monsalvo, LU5DX <lu5dx@mail.ru>wrote:

> First of all Randy thank YOU! for working so hard with all the team of
> people you put together to take the WPX organization to the next level!
> The web site is a pleasure itself, the score database with all the hard
> work
> it takes is a great tool to see historic scores at a world, continental and
> country levels. None of us would have enven dreamed of it a few years ago,
> the certificates are sent out in a timely way. We receive answers to our
> questions with an amazing TAT (usually just a few hours)! I believe the
> only
> thing we can do to thank you all guys enough is to spread the word and
> encourage more of our club members to enter the contest and we all are
> doing
> our best in that respect.
> And now, thanks so much for being open to suggestions.
> I'm possitive sure several ideas will come up the the final outcome will be
> really possitive for the clubs, the clubs members and for the contest
> itself. I'm pretty sure I'm not guessing about which is the contest that
> would be willing to give it a try (wink).
>
> The BCC, the GADX Araucaria DX Group, the DXXE, the LUCG and the WWYC are
> working together on a proposal for you and directors of the other contests
> run by CQ to consider. Other club may get involved by droping me a note.
>
> We really hope what we will present in about a month / month and a half
> will
> help answer the real question.
>
> Best regards and CU in the next WPX CW!
>
> 73
> de LU5DX
>
> On Sat, Apr 9, 2011 at 5:32 PM, Randy Thompson K5ZD <k5zd@charter.net
> >wrote:
>
> > I have been enjoying the discussion regarding the club competition rules.
> > Thank you to Martin LU5DX for starting this and conducting a petition.
> >
> > There is some additional survey data fromt the annual WPX participant
> > survey
> > in a blog posting at http://www.cqwpx.com/blog/?p=70 (toward the end).
> >
> > Distance is a an arbitrary method of defining a club that was created
> many
> > years ago.  It has generally worked well among US clubs in large cities
> > where population density is high, but not for everyone. The ARRL later
> > created levels of categories based on number of entries and distance to
> > account for smaller local clubs in other areas.
> >
> > A club used to be thought of as a group of locals who got together for
> > regular meetings. The Internet is changing that. Now club members can
> stay
> > in close communication without ever attending a club meeting. My local
> > club,
> > the YCCC, rarely has more than 50 people at a meeting in a club with over
> > 300 members.
> >
> > Other parts of the world, such as Brazil, Argentina, Australia, Russia,
> > etc.
> > are generating new interest in ham radio and club competition with
> members
> > located across broad regional geographies. Club scores based on distance
> > are
> > not practical for them.
> >
> > For a contest sponsor, the primary goal of the club competition is to
> > encourage more activity. For the clubs, it is a target for motivating
> their
> > members to operate more and improve their scores. For both goals to be
> > achived, it is important to be as inclusive as possible.
> >
> > A competition is not meaningful if there are not some boundaries or
> limits
> > (i.e., rules). If we replace distance, what should be the definition of a
> > club for the purposes of contest club competition? How can the new
> > definition be checked/scored by the contest administrator?
> >
> > That is the real question.  If we can find the answer, then I know of a
> > contest that would be willing to give it a try.
> >
> >
> > Randy, K5ZD
> >
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>
>
>
> --
> Martin Monsalvo, LU5DX
> lu5dx@mail.ru
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