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Re: [CQ-Contest] Remote Control in Contests

To: Pete Smith <n4zr@contesting.com>, Christian Schneider <prickler.schneider@t-online.de>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Remote Control in Contests
From: Kelly Taylor <ve4xt@mymts.net>
Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2012 11:08:40 -0500
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That makes sense. The stations working CQ8X have no means nor obligation to
control the length of Toni's control cables, so his being remote shouldn't
punish them.


On 4/11/12 9:34 AM, "Pete Smith" <n4zr@contesting.com> wrote:

> I don't think so.  I think Toni has misinterpreted DXCC rule 9, which reads:
> 
> 9. All stations must be contacted from the same DXCC entity. The
> location of any station shall be defined as the location of the
> transmitter. For the purposes of this award, remote operating points
> must be located within the same DXCC entity as the transmitter and receiver.
> 
> As I read it, this means that his remote-controlled QSOs will not count
> for *his* DXCC totals from the Azores.  Rule 9 bars claiming DXCC credit
> for QSOs made from a remote control point outside *the claimant's* DXCC
> entity, but that only affects Toni's ability to claim them, not that of
> the stations he worked.
> 
> 73, Pete N4ZR
> The World Contest Station Database, updated daily at www.conteststations.com
> The Reverse Beacon Network at http://reversebeacon.net, blog at
> reversebeacon.blogspot.com,
> spots at telnet.reversebeacon.net, port 7000 and
> arcluster.reversebeacon.net, port 7000
> 
> 
> On 4/11/2012 9:56 AM, Christian Schneider wrote:
>> N4ZR wrote:
>>> Every single QSO that Toni made was a legitimate, unsolicited, 100% amateur
>> radio QSO from the Azores.
>> 
>> Well, some subtraction should be made, as OH2UA stated in his 3830-report
>> (http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/2012-April/249492.html) that
>> those QSOs do not count for DXCC. I´m  not in DXCC-rules but seemingly there
>> is a perspective seeing such qsos a bit diffrent than "ordinary" qsos where
>> the operator sits at the transmitting site.
>> 
>> Will be interesting to see what further issues will arise with a growing
>> number of such unmanned remote controlled stations - from new forms of
>> rental stations to detective work of log checkers whether this stations were
>> mis-used by cheaters as receiving sites etc.
>> Toys for the Formula One who certainly will claim that it can attract new
>> blood. Curious...
>> 
>> 73, Chris (DL8MBS)
>> 
>> 
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