I said in my post that what was done was within the rules. Does that
mean I have to agree with the rules or agree with the Captains selection?
In my letter to the WRTC, the selections of teammates outside the
specific area ie NA10, while within the rules, does not encourage a
sense of rooting for the home team when the team is populated with non
area members.
These events like the discussion of the College football playoff will
always have people or teams on the fringe who are not able to participate.
Is there a problem with having open, honest discussions? I would like
to hear from WRTC if the desire was to have local teams within the
geographical areas or was this simply a way to assist in determining
the captains?
The Grand Mesa Contest Club sponsored a tent for the event, which I
believed at the time as good the hobby. 1/2 the donations were raised
by soliciting funds from individuals and the other half was matched by
the club. I personally donated to the fund. There were a number of
members who were against spending club funds on this endeavor. With
some of the views expressed on the list, I am starting to side with
those people in their evaluation on what the WRTC is and this may change
my decision in the future.
Mike W0MU
On 10/19/2013 8:08 AM, Steve London wrote:
Like it or not, W0UA got beat fair-and-square.
http://wrtc-rank.com/opdetails.php?rank_type=claimed&op=ku1cw and
http://wrtc-rank.com/opdetails.php?rank_type=claimed&op=w0ua tell the
story. In head-to-head competition, KU1CW (operating from KU1CW/0 or
N0NI) beat W0UA a number of times. W0UA only beat KU1CW once.
It was very close between KU1CW and W0UA. That is good competition.
W0UA lost because of the operating category he chose to operate. See
CQWW CW 2011 as an example. W0UA operated with the K0RF multi-multi.
That limited his maximum score to 800 points. If he had operated a
competitive single-op, or competitive multi-single, he would have had
close to 1000 points, and been the NA10 team leader. The same analysis
could be made for ARRL DX CW 2011, NAQP CW 2011-Jan, CQWW CW 2010.
Operating ANY of these 4 contests as a competitive single-op would
have made W0UA the NA10 winner.
73,
Steve, N2IC
On 10/19/2013 02:36 AM, W0MU Mike Fatchett wrote:
I felt the same way Steve when I looked at the NA10 listing. In fact, I
wrote the WRTC with my comments.
At least 7 of NA10 captain scores were from outside the area. 9 of his
scores are from multi ops, 5 from the area and 4 outside the area. 7 of
his scores appear to be from his home station. He picked someone from EU
to operate with him. W0UA and K0EU were very very close behind with K0EU
being credited with all scores in NA10. W0UA's points except for two
Multi's in the USA, were from NA10.
All of which is legal within the rules as they appear today. The NA10
team or any team should come from that area. On a cursory inspection 2
other Captains chose people outside the respective areas.
I suggest that the top 50 scores are used or only count scores from
within the area.
Do I feel like the NA10 team represents the NA10 area? No.
Mike W0MU
On 10/18/2013 7:19 PM, steve.root@culligan4water.com wrote:
"The world was divided into regions. Qualifiers were only competing
with others in their same region in order to qualify."
Except that some of the regions are enormous, thus ignoring the
realities of propagation.
Except that rules allowed for half of the qualifying scores to happen
anywhere else on Earth, like the Caribbean.
Except that the rules allow a team leader to pick a partner from
anywhere on Earth.
The rules sound good in theory but in practice one whole operator and
half of the other operator have NOTHING to do with any given
geographical area.
73 Steve K0SR
-----Original Message-----
From: Randy Thompson K5ZD [mailto:k5zd@charter.net]
Sent: Friday, October 18, 2013 08:01 PM
To: ''Charles Harpole'', ''CQ-Contest Reflector''
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] WRTC renamed?
Go back and read the qualifying rules
again.http://www.wrtc2014.org/qualifying/team-selection/The world was
divided into regions. Qualifiers were only competing withothers in
their same region in order to qualify.Yes, there are more teams from
Eu and NA, but that is because there are morecontesters in those
places.The WRTC2014 committee added more teams than ever before in an
attempt toget as many competitors from around the world as possible.
It is very hardto squeeze the approximately 20,000 active contesters
in the world down toonly 118 competitors!Randy, K5ZD> -----Original
Message-----> From: CQ-Contest
[mailto:cq-contest-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of> Charles
Harpole> Sent: Friday, October 18, 2013 3:45 PM> To: CQ-Contest
Reflector> Subject: [CQ-Contest] WRTC renamed?> > World Radio Team
Competition could easily be re-named ....> NA/EU Team Competition with
some token others thrown in.> > I like the WRTC, its organizers, and
the excitement it adds to ham radio.
But, let us not pretend the selection process has found the whole list
of> highly accomplished contesters.> > Some will just not want to do
it even if in the top ten often. Some live> in parts of the world
where their scores in contests as the contests now> exist can never
turn huge numbers. That would be residents of most of> Africa and many
parts of Asia.> > Example, if Asia gives you one point and you live in
the HUGE continent> of Asia, you are in the hole compared to other
locations.> > Please do not think I am rooting for myself; I am not,
but I do know> some really talented Asians left out by the structure.
Further, I do not> think this disparity can be easily fixed. But, WRTC
is a "world" event> the same as the baseball "world" series is what
its name implies.> > Actually, virtually anything that will get ops
off the computer and on> the air has to be a good thing, but it is not
healthy for NA/EU to think> of> themselves as the WHOLE world. 73> >
--> Charly, HS0ZC
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