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Re: [CQ-Contest] Contesting Technology - Phone Skimmer Nears Beta Test

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Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Contesting Technology - Phone Skimmer Nears Beta Test
From: <w5gn@mxg.com>
Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2015 23:24:52 -0500
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Could we provide a 10 meter repeater with a delay line, 
so you could hear your own audio before the contest?

Barry, W5GN

-----Original Message-----
From: CQ-Contest [mailto:cq-contest-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Randy 
Thompson K5ZD
Sent: Friday, April 03, 2015 11:16 PM
To: cq-contest@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Contesting Technology - Phone Skimmer Nears Beta Test

It would seem the use of computer sound cards as voice keyers is the root cause 
of most SSB modulation and clarity issues.  It took me several sound cards 
before I found a combination that sounded good.  

We have several choices as a community.  We can simply not work guys with bad 
audio.  Or we can work them and then tell them their audio is bad.
Perhaps if enough people said something, they would work on it.

Randy, K5ZD


> -----Original Message-----
> From: CQ-Contest [mailto:cq-contest-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf 
> Of Jim Brown
> Sent: Friday, April 03, 2015 7:35 PM
> To: cq-contest@contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Contesting Technology - Phone Skimmer Nears 
> Beta Test
> 
> On Fri,4/3/2015 11:25 AM, Marijan Miletic wrote:
> > Five years ago there was a hope that mature speech recognition 
> > technology would be applied to limited vocabulary hamradio contesting.
> > It has become April fools joke instead sadly illustrating dumbing of
> our hobby.
> 
> Having just endured another weekend of truly awful audio with WPX SSB, 
> I couldn't even get my ear/brain to decode many of them. I heard at 
> least
> 50 stations with audio so badly distorted, muffled, or wildly 
> overprocessed that I could not copy them, and at least a hundred more 
> where the poor audio quality made me take twice as long to complete 
> the QSO.
> 
> I'm not suggesting that we don't use processing/eq/compression -- 
> these are excellent techniques if done WELL, but they destroy speech 
> intelligibility if done badly. I run my K3 with the three lowest 
> frequency bands set for maximum cut and some cut of the fourth (400 
> Hz) band. The remaining bands are set flat. I have compression set for 
> 10 dB on peaks, and I carefully set computer playback level so that 
> the radio is not overdriven.
> 
> PLEASE -- the next time you are setting up for a SSB contest, either 
> listen to your own audio on another rig or get another ham to listen 
> critically to your audio.
> 
> 73, Jim K9YC
> 
> 
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