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Re: [CQ-Contest] TO7A debacle

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Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] TO7A debacle
From: Kostas SV1DPI <sv1dpi@otenet.gr>
Date: Mon, 11 May 2015 19:43:49 +0300
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Maybe the Contest Committee need to make the logs public in an earlier time before the results are publicized. This way everyone can make his observations.

73 Kostas SV1DPI
PS By the way the TO7A QSO with SV1VN (SV mult) on 80m is not good also 
according Vassilis (I asked him)

On 11/5/2015 7:12 μμ, Igor Sokolov wrote:
These are the results (advatages)  of making participant's logs public.

73, Igor UA9CDC

----- Original Message ----- From: "Randy Thompson K5ZD" <k5zd@charter.net> To: "'Dez Watson'" <g3ww.dez@virgin.net>; <ea5rs@ono.com>; <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Monday, May 11, 2015 4:55 PM
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] TO7A debacle


Great job by EA5RS and others to identify this block of 160m QSOs as being
suspicious.  According to the reverse log data (where we build a log for
every station that makes any contacts in the received logs), TO7A did not
make any contacts between 0433 and 0602 UTC 2014-11-30. However, this is
the same time that there is a run of 160m QSOs in the TO7A log. We cannot find these QSOs on the SDR recording or RBN logs. One could assume these
160m QSOs were added to the TO7A log to improve the score.

All of the calls in this "160 run" were active in the contest, but did not submit a log. That implies there was a deliberate attempt to pad the log
with calls that could not be cross checked.


Anyone want to talk about something else now?

Randy, K5ZD


-----Original Message-----
From: CQ-Contest [mailto:cq-contest-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of
Dez Watson
Sent: Monday, May 11, 2015 9:25 AM
To: ea5rs@ono.com; cq-contest@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] TO7A debacle

Juan,

Comparing public data from the RBN with the TO7A log, the 160m running
period between
0346 UTC and 0351 on Sunday 30th Nov matches well:

TO7A log:

QSO:  1840 CW 2014-11-30 0346 TO7A          599 8 VE3DO         599 04
QSO:  1840 CW 2014-11-30 0347 TO7A          599 8 W1/SP4Z       599 05
QSO:  1840 CW 2014-11-30 0347 TO7A          599 8 XE2S          599 06
QSO:  1840 CW 2014-11-30 0348 TO7A          599 8 N0TT          599 04
QSO:  1840 CW 2014-11-30 0348 TO7A          599 8 W4NF          599 05
QSO:  1840 CW 2014-11-30 0349 TO7A          599 8 VC7M          599 03
QSO:  1840 CW 2014-11-30 0349 TO7A          599 8 NN6L          599 03
QSO:  1840 CW 2014-11-30 0350 TO7A          599 8 NN5T          599 04
QSO:  1840 CW 2014-11-30 0350 TO7A          599 8 NO9E          599 05
QSO:  1840 CW 2014-11-30 0350 TO7A          599 8 K5KPE         599 04
QSO:  1840 CW 2014-11-30 0351 TO7A          599 8 K9QVB         599 04
QSO:  1840 CW 2014-11-30 0351 TO7A          599 8 K3JO          599 05

In the time-frame above there were at least 4 skimmers hits for TO7A from
WZ7I, K3MM, K8ND and PJ2A.

An issue for me is, an hour later, TO7A claims to be running on 160m but
there are no skimmer spots and what appear to be those unsubstantiated
QSOs which you correctly highlighted in your post Juan.

QSO:  1830 CW 2014-11-30 0437 TO7A          599 8 W9FML         599 04
QSO:  1830 CW 2014-11-30 0438 TO7A          599 8 K6NO          599 03
QSO:  1830 CW 2014-11-30 0439 TO7A          599 8 ON4TO         599 14
QSO:  1830 CW 2014-11-30 0440 TO7A          599 8 OZ1CTK        599 14
QSO:  1830 CW 2014-11-30 0441 TO7A          599 8 AC5RN         599 04
QSO:  1830 CW 2014-11-30 0442 TO7A          599 8 RA3QSY        599 16
QSO:  1830 CW 2014-11-30 0444 TO7A          599 8 G3ZHL         599 14
QSO:  1830 CW 2014-11-30 0445 TO7A          599 8 DL7SBV        599 14
QSO:  1830 CW 2014-11-30 0446 TO7A          599 8 DL8OK         599 14
QSO:  1830 CW 2014-11-30 0447 TO7A          599 8 OH3M          599 15
QSO:  1830 CW 2014-11-30 0448 TO7A          599 8 SM2BLY        599 14
QSO:  1830 CW 2014-11-30 0449 TO7A          599 8 UT5URW        599 16
QSO:  1830 CW 2014-11-30 0450 TO7A          599 8 K4LNN         599 05
QSO:  1830 CW 2014-11-30 0451 TO7A          599 8 DL3TU         599 14
QSO:  1830 CW 2014-11-30 0452 TO7A          599 8 LA5HE         599 14
QSO:  1830 CW 2014-11-30 0454 TO7A          599 8 OE3V          599 15
QSO:  1830 CW 2014-11-30 0456 TO7A          599 8 OK1EK         599 15
QSO:  1830 CW 2014-11-30 0457 TO7A          599 8 SP3CQP        599 15
QSO:  1830 CW 2014-11-30 0459 TO7A          599 8 OM1LA         599 15
QSO:  1830 CW 2014-11-30 0459 TO7A          599 8 K0PJ          599 04
QSO:  1830 CW 2014-11-30 0502 TO7A          599 8 PA1BR         599 14
QSO:  1830 CW 2014-11-30 0504 TO7A          599 8 PY1NP         599 11
QSO:  1830 CW 2014-11-30 0506 TO7A          599 8 LZ1MG         599 20
QSO:  1830 CW 2014-11-30 0507 TO7A          599 8 RW3PK         599 16
QSO:  1830 CW 2014-11-30 0508 TO7A          599 8 R6KY          599 16
QSO:  1830 CW 2014-11-30 0509 TO7A          599 8 9A2JK         599 15
QSO:  1830 CW 2014-11-30 0511 TO7A          599 8 LU2YE         599 13
QSO:  1830 CW 2014-11-30 0512 TO7A          599 8 N3XF          599 05
QSO:  1830 CW 2014-11-30 0513 TO7A          599 8 W2OR          599 05
QSO:  1830 CW 2014-11-30 0515 TO7A          599 8 YU1QU         599 15
QSO:  1830 CW 2014-11-30 0517 TO7A          599 8 EA4FL         599 14
QSO:  1830 CW 2014-11-30 0518 TO7A          599 8 W9FY          599 04
QSO:  1830 CW 2014-11-30 0518 TO7A          599 8 N5HI          599 04
QSO:  1830 CW 2014-11-30 0519 TO7A          599 8 EI2KC         599 14
QSO:  1830 CW 2014-11-30 0520 TO7A          599 8 KG8P          599 04
QSO:  1830 CW 2014-11-30 0522 TO7A          599 8 EA8MT         599 33

73

Dez G3WW
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