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Re: [CQ-Contest] new scores in standings

To: Ashraf Chaabane <ash.kf5eyy@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] new scores in standings
From: Rudy Bakalov via CQ-Contest <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Reply-to: Rudy Bakalov <r_bakalov@yahoo.com>
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 2015 17:07:19 -0400
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The way I look at this, other than the WRTC2018 event itself, WRTC does not 
assign points on its own. That is, they depend on other contest organizers, 
such as WPX, to assign points and determine if participants have followed the 
rules.

In your case, WRTC has overruled WPX, even though WRTC has no authority over 
WPX. Sure, WRTC can maintain their current position on many valid concerns- 
"Our way or the highway"- but is indeed unfair.

I have no horse in this game. As an observer, I have the feeling WRTC forgets 
that the event is all about the competitors, not the organizers.  There have 
been quite a few thoughtful comments from well respected competitors whose 
feedback has been met with "These are our rules, they are set in stone, and too 
bad if you don't like them".

Rudy N2WQ

Sent using a tiny keyboard.  Please excuse brevity, typos, or inappropriate 
autocorrect.


> On Oct 4, 2015, at 4:47 PM, Ashraf Chaabane <ash.kf5eyy@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Yes, and I don't think this is fair!
> 
> 73
> 
> Ash 3V8BB/KF5EYY
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 04 Oct 2015, at 21:35, Rudy Bakalov <r_bakalov@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Ash,
>> 
>> Are you saying that WPX accepted and published your score, but WRTC chose to 
>> not accept it?
>> 
>> Rudy N2WQ
>> 
>> Sent using a tiny keyboard.  Please excuse brevity, typos, or inappropriate 
>> autocorrect.
>> 
>> 
>>> On Oct 2, 2015, at 12:51 PM, Ashraf CHAABANE <ash.kf5eyy@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Dear Ulf,
>>> 
>>> This rule of removing WRTC points for 'late log' was added recently. I can't
>>> see if this is a good practice to update rules while qualification race is
>>> ongoing.
>>> 
>>> I sent my log few hours after the deadline, HOWEVER: I'm compliant with WPX
>>> rules, my log is valid, my QSOs are confirmed, my score is listed (was not
>>> re-classified as a Checklog!). I simply won't receive a paper certificate.
>>> This is very disappointing that I'm punished two times. 
>>> 
>>> Personally, I do 260 km to operate every contest and a lot of arrangements
>>> are made to free up time. Then I see zero WRTC points.
>>> 
>>> By the way, Africa is split in two separate areas however one TL will be
>>> selected. That means, a competitor from South West Africa can have ALL WRTC
>>> points each contest with only few QSOs made and get qualified, while those
>>> in North Africa where competition is hot will stay home.
>>> I didn't comment on that previously, I understood that rules are made and I
>>> should respect them. But please consider re-visiting this new rule of "late
>>> log".
>>> 
>>> Appreciate the efforts you are doing to make WRTC2018 a successful event!
>>> 
>>> vy73
>>> --
>>> Ash KF5EYY
>>> Op. 3V8SS, 3V8BB
>>> www.kf5eyy.info
>>> 
>>> 
>>> ------------------------------
>>> 
>>> Message: 2
>>> Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2015 22:36:38 +0200
>>> From: "DL5AXX, WRTC2018" <dl5axx@wrtc2018.de>
>>> To: cq-contest@contesting.com, rrdxa@mailman.qth.net,
>>>  bcc@bavarian-contest-club.de, wrtc2018@lists.wrtc2018.de
>>> Subject: [CQ-Contest] new scores in standings
>>> Message-ID: <560D9956.2000109@wrtc2018.de>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
>>> 
>>> Hi folks,
>>> 
>>> even added WAE SSB claimed and RDXC finals. Points for 'late logs' from the
>>> CQ WPX SSB are removed (see FAQ -
>>> http://www.wrtc2018.de/index.php/en/wettbewerb-2).
>>> 
>>> Current standings at
>>> http://www.wrtc2018.de/index.php/en/wettbewerb-2/standings-2
>>> 
>>> 73 Ulf, DL5AXX
>>> WRTC2018 qualifications
>>> 
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